I love the License Board but it is too short.
Sphere grid FTW!
Final Fantasy X - Sphere Grid
Final Fantasy XII - License Board
I love the License Board but it is too short.
Sphere grid FTW!
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They are both based on board games; therefore, both of them fail.
But...
... FFX fails less.Originally Posted by Maxx Power
I must choose the Liscense Board. Certainly, the Sphere Grid had more customization potential, but you could not access the vast majority of that potential until the very end of the game. Spheres were extremely easy to come by, making them useless for the sphere grid system, since the odds of not having a needed Power, Mana, Speed, or Ability sphere is slim to none. Yet, if you want to use the spheres for Aeon enhancement, you must gather an entire stack and waste them all to gain a single point in a stat. There are some really screwy calculations there.
The Liscence Board, on the other hand, cannot be customized, yet I feel that it is a far better system than the Sphere grid. It is far less linear, since your characters can take any path they wanted from the very beginning of the game. You can customize your characters however you want, with strong magic or strong physical attacks, with speed or technics. Your characters develop how you want them to, with no forced path that they must follow.
The Liscence Board may be too small, but its flexibility, even at an early stage, makes it the winner in my book.
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The sphere grid... I don't really like the License board, its good for making a pretty uniform party pretty early in the game... At least the Sphere Grid had a rudimentary job-like system for the first couple dozen hours until you maxed one persons path...
wtf? License Board is far better. The Sphere Grid was full of suck.
I choose the Sphere Grid.
The License board was too generic and too easy and you did not really need any strategic approach to enhancing your characters identity. It paved the way to make everyone into clones. Although I know you don't have to make them into clones but the possiblity is there.
Where as the sphere grid you had to plan more strategically or you'll end up wasting valuable moves. Why i say the sphere grid is more strategically challenging is simple:
1. You need different type spheres to enhance not only the characters abilities, but also the Aeons as well. If you lack some spheres, you have the option to fight monster creations to get the spheres you need. Or you can buy sphere distillers and cast them onto fiends to get the spheres you need. PLanning and strategy! I love it!
Who ever said there's a lack of spheres even when upgrading your Aeons is totally wrong.
2. If you want to make clones, this will be challenging since pathways start off differently. So in the beginning the roles and abilities of each character start off differently. Thus when you do battles, you need to strategize (is this a word?)and re-think your every encounter. Unlike in FFXII, you can buy axes for everyone in one setting. Boring!!! I would rather find a plan and strategy that works instead of saying "Hmmm.. I can't beat this boss! I'm just gonna buy 'Save the Queen' for everyone. MUahahaha!"
Don't even mention the different Weapons and Armor customizations!! So my 'Dragonkiller' sword may be different than yours! or I can even make 2 or 3 Kotetsu's each with different uses depending on the battle.
3. If you want a certain character to have an ability not obtainable from his/her starting position you can always use teleport, friend, return spheres. (Ex. My Auron can cast Holy) But you have to plan it out first before using, or else waste an uncommon sphere. More planning and strategy which I love!!
4. And in FFXII, you can't really go deep into leveling and customizing since there is no Break HP, Break Damage, Break MP abilities. So although more versatile, no matter how strong your weapons or strength abilities are, you'll only get up to 9,999 damage. Boring!!
In FFX, the game continues to encourage you to get your characters as much damage potential as they can get.
5. Should I even include the level unlocking spheres needed?? More planning!
All in all to sum things up, I love the Sphere grid since it involves more challenging strategic thinking than the License Board.
They should have called it the "License Bored." lol
This alone describes the Sphere Grid.The License board was too generic and too easy and you did not really need any strategic approach to enhancing your characters identity. It paved the way to make everyone into clones. Although I know you don't have to make them into clones but the possiblity is there.
Quote Renmiri on FFXII
She loves it more then X!I bitch about the game a lot, mainly for the lack of story and weak characters, but it is still the best of the series out there.
Customizable weapons - virtually useless for the vast majority of the game due to the difficulty of obtaining items that allow for decent customizations.I choose the Sphere Grid.
The License board was too generic and too easy and you did not really need any strategic approach to enhancing your characters identity. It paved the way to make everyone into clones. Although I know you don't have to make them into clones but the possiblity is there.
Where as the sphere grid you had to plan more strategically or you'll end up wasting valuable moves. Why i say the sphere grid is more strategically challenging is simple:
1. You need different type spheres to enhance not only the characters abilities, but also the Aeons as well. If you lack some spheres, you have the option to fight monster creations to get the spheres you need. Or you can buy sphere distillers and cast them onto fiends to get the spheres you need. PLanning and strategy! I love it!
Who ever said there's a lack of spheres even when upgrading your Aeons is totally wrong.
2. If you want to make clones, this will be challenging since pathways start off differently. So in the beginning the roles and abilities of each character start off differently. Thus when you do battles, you need to strategize (is this a word?)and re-think your every encounter. Unlike in FFXII, you can buy axes for everyone in one setting. Boring!!! I would rather find a plan and strategy that works instead of saying "Hmmm.. I can't beat this boss! I'm just gonna buy 'Save the Queen' for everyone. MUahahaha!"
Don't even mention the different Weapons and Armor customizations!! So my 'Dragonkiller' sword may be different than yours! or I can even make 2 or 3 Kotetsu's each with different uses depending on the battle.
3. If you want a certain character to have an ability not obtainable from his/her starting position you can always use teleport, friend, return spheres. (Ex. My Auron can cast Holy) But you have to plan it out first before using, or else waste an uncommon sphere. More planning and strategy which I love!!
4. And in FFXII, you can't really go deep into leveling and customizing since there is no Break HP, Break Damage, Break MP abilities. So although more versatile, no matter how strong your weapons or strength abilities are, you'll only get up to 9,999 damage. Boring!!
In FFX, the game continues to encourage you to get your characters as much damage potential as they can get.
5. Should I even include the level unlocking spheres needed?? More planning!
All in all to sum things up, I love the Sphere grid since it involves more challenging strategic thinking than the License Board.
They should have called it the "License Bored." lol
Return,friend etc. spheres - again unavailable in any decent quantity for the majority of the game. Hardly any customization is either possible or necessary unless one wants to do side quests, never mind planning.
Aeon enhancements - absurdly overcosted, useless in practice.
Skyblade specifically said that there are always enough spheres for upgrading your characters, but not enough if you also want to upgrade your Aeons. That's absolutely true unless you're willing to engage in absurd amounts of distilling.
Cloning - Yes it's probably too easy to fill the license board (it doesn't help that you can still accumulate LP from weak enemies). I didn't have this problem, and I suspect that most people who do are grinding unnecessarily (a better designed system would forbid this, but FF games have rarely been paradigms of balance). Not only is it unnecessary to "buy Save the Queen for everybody" to get past any bosses, it would be enormously boring to accumulate the gil for that. OTOH the amount of challenge in the FF10 bosses is very low with 3 or 4 exceptions (not counting optionals), especially when compared to the FF12 average, so this argument is not very convincing. In any case any challenge can be overcome in either game by levelling/gil hoarding (or sphere grid building if you will), so this is a moot point (see my .sig).
The idea that FF10 requires more strategy (not counting optional fights again) than FF12 is just laughable IMO, and not even really worth discussing. "Strategizing" and rethinking every encounter? Please. The amount of different possible encounters in FF10 is considerably lower than in FF12 anyway given that FF10's enemies always come up in fixed groups, and the battle scene stays the same in every location.
The fact is that for the vast majority of the game the sphere grid _does not even allow_ any significant amount of planning and strategy, so there's no question about it "requiring planning and strategy", especially when compared to the license board.
MP Break, HP Break etc. - I don't see what the big deal about not having these is, as they are only necessary (again) for difficult optional fights and make the main quest even easier.
"...a challenge you can solve by leveling up isn't really a challenge. It's a test of patience and not really 'gameplay' at all. Take for example some of the maniacal timed jumps you have to master in Super Mario 2, the Japanese version. If you could simply make yourself jump higher and fall slower by pounding on 10,000 goombas, this would completely circumvent all the design put into making the individual boards difficult. "
-John Ford, from alt.games.final-fantasy
Well Skyblade and Neo-Omega Mk XXV, pretty much said my feelings about this debate and the supposedly "stengths" of the Sphere Grid. The fact is, most of these "strengths" only become truly excessable by the end game and they are more designed towards taking out the optional boss creatures by making your party into clones of each other.
Also, for the Aeon customizations, they are completely pointless (honestly, FFXII could have used it more than FFX) since the Aeons are generally more powerful than everything in the game. Who cares if you powered up Ixion so much he can beat Yunalesca by itself?
The problem is that FFX doesn't have the level of difficulty and strategy needed within the main game to make it's extra features so wonderful. XII's system was designed around the main game not the optional stuff you do later. The fact that FFXII gives you challenges as nasty as FFX's with more limited resources at your disposal makes it far more challenging and requires a higher level of strategy than just "power leveling".
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Hmmm so hard too choose... hmmmm
This is WAY tough but I think the sphere grid is just a tad better. Why? As there are more space to get your Hp or Mp or whatever to grow faster.And its larger and the abilty to make new nodes!
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IMO, Sphere Grid > License Board.
License Board seems designed for noobs to Final Fantasy.
Tard. I would think of something more appropriate to say, but right now, tard seems the only suitable word for that statementXD
Quote Renmiri on FFXII
She loves it more then X!I bitch about the game a lot, mainly for the lack of story and weak characters, but it is still the best of the series out there.
That doesn't even make sense =/IMO, Sphere Grid > License Board.
License Board seems designed for noobs to Final Fantasy.
MAKE SENSE
I vote... License Board, cos sphere grid takes forever to complete. I still havent completed it.
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I agree with Jonathan.
You'd think of something more appropriate to say, but unfortunately, you're incredibly stupid.
How does that not make sense? Do you have problems understanding English?That doesn't even make sense =/IMO, Sphere Grid > License Board.
License Board seems designed for noobs to Final Fantasy.
MAKE SENSE
I vote... License Board, cos sphere grid takes forever to complete. I still havent completed it.
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