Something wrong with this game?

[Renmiri]

The only "grinding" I did from time to time was to accumulate loot to buy some better equipment.

Which on XII is 90% of the time...

CloudSky, here are my favorite leveling spots (tons of gil + leveling), sequenced by level I was at the time:

1. Lhusu Mines until you get strong enough for
2. Nam Yensa (around the Tomb of Raithwal) then
3. Ozmone Plains (Mesmenir, Werewolf) then
4. Golmore Jungle (Malboro, Treant) then
5. Paramina Rift (Skeletons, Slaven) then
6. Mosphoran Highwaste (Wolf, Slaven, Behemoth...) then
7. Phon Coast (Bagoly) then
8. The Feywood (Mirrorknight) then
9. Giruvegan (Behemoth...) then
10. Great Crystal then
11. Subterra at the Pharos

[CloudySky]

The thing with hunting marks is, don't do them right when they become available, continue with the story a lil' more and come back later. I had trouble beating the ringwyrm first, but I just came back a story-chapter later and I had no trouble at all.

There is a slight problem with it, the clan leader Monblanc warned me couple of times, probably 5 or 6, that hunts won’t be available for ever. Well if he lied, he’s a very mean lil Moogle. Although I had my suspicions on that, I wasn’t sure, so I tried to kill them when I got them.

Now about saving. I got hunt of gilsnaper when I was about lvl 10. To get to him is not close to save point by any means, also on a way, I usually encountered an elemental or 2, what made it even more frustrating. I can remember probably 2 marks being close to save points.

To guy who haven’t died once, lol. Who do you try to fool? Unless you trained very early in the game at very beginning I mean, the very first lvl 5 mark you got had to kill you. At the time I got first 5 lvl marks I was around level 20, don’t know about you.

About what patience you guys are talking? When a mark kills all my party in 1 or 2 turns, it’s obvious my level is not high enough, or if I can only heal/use phoenix dawns and do no damage at all, it’s again obvious my levels are too low. I can’t try things when my party dies in time I try 1, can I?
I got Chocobo hunt when I was around 25 lvl, I’m lvl 35 now I still can’t kill it, just great… How more levels I need? 10-20? If that’s the case, why I got it so early ingame, beats me…
Again Monblanc and that guy which issued this mark told me that I have to kill it fast, because other hunters are after him too, well, I probably should advance with story and see what happens. Although idea of ignoring hunts at all looks better to me ATM.

I don’t know about your gaming style but beating this game in 90 hours seems like totally impossible to me. My experience of other FF games tells me that things can be easily missed, so after advancing in story I try to revisit all available places and talk to all people, it kinda takes time too, plus story itself, plus sidequests. Don’t see how it can be doable in 90 hours, honestly.

I kinda understand that I don’t like to train in this game for the reason I don’t like this game at all. I just can’t accept the fact I don’t like FF game

Thanks Renmiri, but I think I'll skip hunting for now, from waht people posted I understood I can do it at the end of the game not now.
On the other hand, what if not all marks will be available later. Dang, what a headache this game is...

[Garnie]

iv completed the game.....
not impressed with the game......
square has let me down........
refur to sig.

[xtrava]

Maybe they didnt realise they were only creating the game for you? :rolleyes2

[Garnie]

19-03-2007 22:02:56
xtrava Maybe they didnt realise they were only creating the game for you?

meh.

[CloudySky]

I'm so with your sig Garnie, if you need supporters, here I am!

Wise guy xtrava, tell me where I tell that they have to create game for me, but when game has a name - Final Fantasy, people expect it to be up to Final Fantasy standards if you know what I mean.
There are more than enough RPGs solely for training, there are still very little games with that great stories and gameplay as FFs were.

[Jerseymilk]

There is a slight problem with it, the clan leader Monblanc warned me couple of times, probably 5 or 6, that hunts won’t be available for ever. Well if he lied, he’s a very mean lil Moogle. Although I had my suspicions on that, I wasn’t sure, so I tried to kill them when I got them.

Yes, he only meant that "story-wise", as in there is a lot of competition between hunters for Marks because of the rewards. You can leave the hunts for as long as you like. I remember one thread here recently from someone who was really far in the game and was finally going back to do the Gil Snapper hunt. He had the same concern as you, but he had no problems. Now that being said, obviously you have to complete some of the hunts before other ones can become available, but there are many others that become available simply from progessing further through the main storyline. So no worries about them disappearing.

[DK]

How can you have played for 70 hours and only be level 35? What on earth have you been doing for 70 hours?

[Setzer Gabianni]

iv completed the game.....
not impressed with the game......
square has let me down........
refur to sig.

Good lord princess, is that WHY this game sucked? Let you down? Because of no random battles? Laughable. No offense, but you've said this repeatedly now, and you don't give any explanation as to why the game really sucked, in your opinion. Maybe you should try explaining yourself next time. I seriously want to see the big deal of you repeating yourself with the refur to sig comment.

To respond to xtrava's comment with a "meh" ? Tut tut

[Raebus]

How can you have played for 70 hours and only be level 35? What on earth have you been doing for 70 hours?

Well, he/she could have been trying to train them equally? Like right now, all of my characters apart from 1 who's level 38, are level 35's and 36's and I've only just gotten to the holy city or palace deep within the mountains, I guess that could be an excuse oh and this is 50 hours in.


Ps, Garnie's opinion is worthless without a good explanation and she probably won't even fill you in on that so ignore her.

[CloudySky]

How can you have played for 70 hours and only be level 35? What on earth have you been doing for 70 hours?

I already explained that but if you wanna know, it looks something like this:

~40 hours training (I was training all characters up to level 30, later I concentrated on training only 3, simply because it takes hours to get 1 lvl in this game) and doing hunts.

~20 hours of exploring the game, talking to NPCs and doing sidequests, checking on hints given by NPCs. I encountered 8 sidequests so far, I finished 5 of them, 1 I’m not so sure I finished it, cos I kinda haven’t got anything for doing it, but might be it’s supposed to be so. I have 5 hints from NPCs I still haven’t figured out yet. Might be I already missed possibility to do those sidequests, it happens very often in FF games. Usually I do a lot of exploring and talking in FF games, if I would want combat only game I would go to play Unreal Tournament, FFs are much more than combat only.

~10 hours doing a story.

I couldn’t say these times are 100% correct, but something like that.

[DK]

Makes more sense now. Personally cba training more than 3 people because you don't need all 6 and the end stats end up quite different for all 6 anyway. Although I will probably level them up later on now I have the double EXP accessory.

As for levelling up taking an hour, you're just levelling up in the wrong place then, 'cause I levelled up about 4 times in the space of an hour last time I played. At level 30 you should easily be strong enough to level at Paramina Rift, although I can't be arsed with that. Stillshrine of Miriam might be a quicker place.

[No.78]

Something is really wrong with this game... Seriously.
Well I play PAL game, I'm 70 hours in the game, most of that time I trained!!! Is it really FF? :rolleyes2
Even more, 70 hours in the game I still have no clue what Vaan and Penelo are doing in this party! If Ashe likes Vaan then she hides it real good I must say.

What the hell has that gotta do with anything? Does Ashe have to marry Vaan cos they're the heroes?

Vaan and Penelo had like 2 lines each during all that time.
I know 10 times more about Larsa and his family than about my own party. OK I suppose it's nice to know your enemy, I can predict them being final bosses. If I'm wrong - down with politics!
Another thing which doesn't make sense at all as not being to able to save before fighting hunt marks.

Dude, what the hell.

Did SE forgot it's not a PC game? Jeez my dieing rate in this game beaten all other games I've played so far, seriously. Such as couple or more deaths until I find out I can/can't beat this mark and making strategy, no wonder I still beat only 10 marks, 70 hours in game!
At the beginning of a game I was dieing a lot to elementals until I learnt that I better run on sight.

Don't blame the game, blame yourself. 70 hours and 10 marks isn't cos the game sucks, its cos you suck.

And totally was let down by this game yesterday, when after 1 hour fight against super speedy and tricky chocobo I finally got him down to critical hp and then he literally KOed out my entire party, all 6 people while I was trying to run as I understood that his meteor attack is almost twice faster than I'm able to heal, not talking about any way to finishing him off. Jeez... And to think of it, I thought my hatred to chocobos after FFX is unmatched...

Wow, you found a challenging enemy? That's just shocking, SHOCKING!

End of rant.

Okay.

...So, what?

P.s. Is it really FF game? I usually love to train near the end in any FF game, I somewhat hate training in this game and I have to train all the time if I want to beat marks-bosses.

There is strategy too, it's not all about your stats. Besides, if you don't like it don't play it, simple. Yes, it is an FF game, get over it.

P.s.s. don't post spoilers please, I got this game only 2 weeks ago.

I thought you hated this game? Now you're just contradicting yourself >.>

[CloudySky]

No.78, not even will bother to answer your post.
Thank you for reminding me why I stopped posting on public boards some time ago. Oh, and thanks for ruining my day (being sarcastic in case you haven’t got it)

When you’ll learn to be respectful and post opinions instead of insults than and only than I’ll forgive you.

If you are human with honour and some morals you will apologise me here and now.

I'm deadly serious. I'm fed up with the guys, who thinks that public boards and online games are for insulting people because no punishment will follow.

[Setzer Gabianni]

He wasn't insulting you, just arguing but doing it rather..ermm..rashly? 8D