is FF getting too "kiddy"

[LoKuS]

If FF starting putting kiss or DMX songs in there, then you know its time to call it quits.

[Hazzard]

If FF starting putting kiss or DMX songs in there, then you know its time to call it quits.

Exactly, if they do that--they're basically say they've raised the white flag. I can't really image controlling somewhat like Auron mid-way in battle and hearing: "SHUT THE HELL UP BECAUSE I'M PACKING NINES IN THE TRUCK, BOUT TO SHOOT THIS GUY UP!!!". Maybe in my spare time, but not entirely when i want to hear 'Fitting' music for FF music sounds.
The day i see live sex on an FF, will be the day when Jesus goes clubbing with me in Tenerife!

[Serapy]

I have really never thought about this, my eyes didn't pop up as if with or without blood really matters because they are just pixels... so it's pretty much meaningless to be concerned about things like blood, etc. Well maybe not just all pixels, but things like blood are pretty much meaningless.

Yeah, I'm pretty more interested in story and its plot holes :P

So the answer is no :P

[Zeromus_X]

The games have never had any gratuitous level of violence or swearing, but that doesn't make them "kiddy" by any means either. Almost all of the games have had some pretty dark overtones to them.

[dance of the infinity]

I think it's a mix of "it's hard to make some decent, realistic looking blood on these sophisticated 3D engines" and "special effects are cool". Like in FFX, when Sin attacks on the beach, the soldiers simply dematerialize and get blown away. To me, that was more effective than BOOM BOOM BOOM BODIES BLOWN APART SAND SOAKED IN BLOOD!!!!!11! It seemed like they were aiming to hit your emotions, yknow, not to gross you out and make you cringe.

Although I have to admit, blood is powerful. You just can't overuse it, otherwise it becomes meaningless.

[The Unknown Guru]

I don't think they are getting kiddy, you can't call a game kiddy because it doesn't have much blood, the story is what makes it kiddy and so far I don't remember any FF with kiddy story. :rolleyes2

[Sophie Peithos]

each one had a fair amount of deaths in it.
FFVII had blood trails everywhere.
FFVIII had the war between the gardens honestly want to tell me tons dindt die in the fights?
FFIX had town after town beind halway wiped out.
FFX had towns being attacked by sin and even the fight where they all charged at sin and fought the sin scaled or whatever they were.
FFX-2 people were shot.
FFXII had the beginning war.

death is everywhere in FF

You list these, taken purely from the more recent FF titles and yet you still question how mature said recent titles are. Interesting.

[Setzer Gabianni]

I totally agree with this topic! FF is and has always been a little pritcy when it comes to things like blood and sex, when we know it's there!!! I mean, come on! You have all these great graphics and these badass storylines, but when it comes to the more realistic stuff, they say the hell with it because they scared the public might go crazy on them. Well, I tell you one thing, If they were to put more realistic things like sexual content, They sells would go through the roof because not only they will still be getting the same crowd, they would be pulling in more people. And trust me, these kids would be eatting their games up like Eminem CDs, regardless or rating because they don't give a damn about whether their too young or not! As a matter of fact, they should put better music in it aswell! Man if you put a Kiss song on for a fight man it will be great! Or a DMX song for a fight! And some R&B for some love scenes. I'm tell you guys, it's time for a change in RPG games. And even if it's not FF, I will bring it!!!

This is a joke post right?

[Peter_20]

I wouldn't say "kiddy", but it sure seems to focus a lot on trying to be "cool".

It started out with Cloud, a cold dude with a huge sword and a punk-haircut, and then there was Squall, the "bad-ass".
This temporarily stopped in FFIX, where characters felt more likeable and overall nicer.
Then we got Tidus, and he also felt kind of exagerrated; he was more the kind of character that 10-year-old boys find "cool".

Cecil and Kain in FF4 were a bit like this as well, but there just was something about them that even I liked.
They felt more "alive", somehow, like characters that were created with a passion.
Nowadays FF characters feel so commercial; it'll be long before we see characters like Rydia, Terra, Locke and Garnet again.

[Dragonface]

I totally agree with this topic! FF is and has always been a little pritcy when it comes to things like blood and sex, when we know it's there!!! I mean, come on! You have all these great graphics and these badass storylines, but when it comes to the more realistic stuff, they say the hell with it because they scared the public might go crazy on them. Well, I tell you one thing, If they were to put more realistic things like sexual content, They sells would go through the roof because not only they will still be getting the same crowd, they would be pulling in more people. And trust me, these kids would be eatting their games up like Eminem CDs, regardless or rating because they don't give a damn about whether their too young or not! As a matter of fact, they should put better music in it aswell! Man if you put a Kiss song on for a fight man it will be great! Or a DMX song for a fight! And some R&B for some love scenes. I'm tell you guys, it's time for a change in RPG games. And even if it's not FF, I will bring it!!!

This is a joke post right?

Sadly no.

Lets look at the other games:
Grand Theif Autos) All GTAs are for over 18 years old (NEVER EVER GIVE A GTA TO KIDS!!!!).
Super Mario Bros) All Mario-based are the REAL KIDDY!

FF's rating is most likey within Mario's and GTA's (Only as PG or M).

[NeoCracker]

Thank god Typhoon isn't a game designer.

[No.78]

I dont geddit. Blood=Higher target audience?

Nahh.

[stalpho slayer]

^ wth? Anyway, think of it this way - you can't have too much blood etc, because these games are played by people of all ages, even very young people ya know?. None of the FF games are THAT kiddy, because of events throughout. XII for instance - (SPOILER)Drace's death scene, not too bloody, but not too kiddy either. You even saw her face as she was stabbed.

Ah, you've mentioned swearing etc, violence. Erm, no no on violence? Every single FF has some form of violence, whether it be in a war, or a random battle! Swearing? I really don't think the general populus would take kindly to a voice-over game which contained a little bit too much swearing. Parents anyway. I personally wouldn't.

WHAT ABOUT GUNZ IN DIRGE OF CEREBUS THERE SHOULD BE MORE BLOOD IN THATwhith no blood it get boring

[Slothy]

>>> FF are ok with or without blood.. Mature players doesnt care about blood, they are more interested in a good story/plot..

Quoted for truth.

Blood and swearing doesn't make a game more mature, just makes it appeal more to juveniles who haven't grown up yet and still think blood pouring and limbs flying is what makes something mature. FF is already more mature than most games, especially when they have plots dealing with character relationships, political intrigue and the like.

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of times where I like violence in a game (God of War anyone?). But a lack of violence doesn't make a game kiddy.

[Lynx]

each one had a fair amount of deaths in it.
FFVII had blood trails everywhere.
FFVIII had the war between the gardens honestly want to tell me tons dindt die in the fights?
FFIX had town after town beind halway wiped out.
FFX had towns being attacked by sin and even the fight where they all charged at sin and fought the sin scaled or whatever they were.
FFX-2 people were shot.
FFXII had the beginning war.

death is everywhere in FF

You list these, taken purely from the more recent FF titles and yet you still question how mature said recent titles are. Interesting.

that was taken out of context also you missed my point. my point in recent FF games death is everywhere and yet when blood should be shown they look the other way.

I dont geddit. Blood=Higher target audience?

Nahh.

i dont think it would create a higher audience. i just think when someone is shot outside of battle (battles dont count in my book because they dont have the monsters changeing with each attack) they should blead because its realistic.

>>> FF are ok with or without blood.. Mature players doesnt care about blood, they are more interested in a good story/plot..

Quoted for truth.

Blood and swearing doesn't make a game more mature, just makes it appeal more to juveniles who haven't grown up yet and still think blood pouring and limbs flying is what makes something mature. FF is already more mature than most games, especially when they have plots dealing with character relationships, political intrigue and the like.

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of times where I like violence in a game (God of War anyone?). But a lack of violence doesn't make a game kiddy.

everyone keeps forgetting to read my other posts and need to figure out that i dont mean kiddy to a litteral extent. i dont think a 7 year old should play any FF really because they wont get the story when i was little and played i didnt undertsand still had fun though but didnt fully understand it until i was older.

also blood splattering and limbs flying to get the game rateing of mature. i dont really care for that much blood. i HATE resident evil. most extremely violent games i tend to hate because they work by haveing a stupid story but so much blood people think its cool.

i play games for there story create an FF where there shouldnt be any blood and i wont mind. but make me watch lenne and shuyin get shot and not a drop of blood im sorry but now i belive they pulled a matrix and dodged bullets and then decided to take a nap. dont go to show someone getting stabbed and turn the camera away.

basically i want them to show what they put in the games. i do think they should leave out sexual content its a video game not porn. keep the game set on what its about wars saveing the planet stuff like that. yeah theres love story too but come on everything violence laungage should also only go so far.

Edit: im just hopeing ff doesnt keep takeing it donw a notch everytime until we have a ff game that the target audience is 5-12. hopefully they will keep up the complex story lines.