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    Overrated: VI-VIII. A lot people I've encountered who prefer one of these three considers them the best game ever.
    Underrated: V because it's a good game that's never really gotten a chance to show how great it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Crystal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    The reason many people don't play it isn't because its online, more that it costs 10 bucks a month and requires a larger dedication then any of the other games to even get into the story. I played the game for a month and never got really far into the story, then I realized I didn't have a way to pay 10 bucks and stopped playing, haven't played since.
    It doesn't mater. The game is still good, you having to pay for it or not. But many people think that because it's online, it doesn't have a good story, any good character, and it don't have an end. They are wrong of course.

    In the moment that people begin to question "This game can be considered part of the main series?", that means the game is completely underrated. FFXI is like any other FF. A group of heros in a magic world trying to save it of a greate evil(or more than one). It has (sorry couldn't resist XP) a good story, bosses, cutscenes, FMVs, final boss, etc.
    I think there was a misunderstanding there.
    I was just pointing out the reason why most people don't play it.

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    Overrated: FFVIII.
    Underrated: FFX-2.

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    Overrated- FFVII- not that it's bad, but it is not the be-all and end-all of FF greatness.

    Underrated- FFII-Damn good story considering when it came out, and the leveling system was fun. Also, IX-Has a good story, solid characters, and one of the best villans in the series. I don't know why more people don't appriciate it.

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    Overrated: FFX.
    Underrated: FFVII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuPu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    are we supposed to take this seriously??? Why would 7/8 fans dislike a game b/c its similar to the originals? I started with 7 and I like every game in the series.
    Did I say YOU? No, I said "many" as in the vast majority of VII and VIII fans that are never willing to consider the fact that there are other great FF's too and probably can't even explain why they like them using more than two sentences. And because most of them I have seen on other forums also happen to dislike Originals; some of them who haven't even played Originals say something like: "originals sux, there graphics r crap".
    You just contradicted your own argument. If they don't like the originals strictly on the basis of graphics, logically they would love IX as it had better backgrounds, character pixelation, and cutscenes than VII and VIII. I think you're leaving things out.

    Not to mention I've never seen anyone on this forum use that reason as to why they don't like the originals. Maybe you've seen that on other forums, that's your word.

    Everyone I know in real life who played VII past the third or so cutscene hated VIII and loved IX. In fact, I have one friend who only played part of VII for the cutscenes (as alot of people on here claim is the only reason), skipped out on VIII, but bought IX when it came out and got really hooked on it, moreso than the other RPGers I knew.

    So, again, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

    I think you and fans who share your sentiments need to come out and say it: the only reason people like VII more than the others are FMVs.

    But if you took more than 6 seconds to think about it, you'd realize there's an abundance of reasons why VII is much better than the first VI games, aside from graphics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    There's lots of truth in this. A large majority of FF fans are actually just fans of FFVII, and VIII, and X. And have never really played any of the others (Like 98% of the fans I know in real life)
    where are you getting the information for that generalization (bolded)? Again, everyone I know who's a fan of VII hated VIII, and loved IX. (BTW Boko, I agree that the monthly fee is what turned off alot of people from XI, and is probably contributes as to why they don't count it as a "true" FF).

    In general, I just find it hilarious and ironic how posters on this site accuse the PSX generation of stereotyping the classics, when i've seen on this site that the exact opposite is true. You don't even have to look further than this thread to see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
    Overrated: FFVIII.
    Underrated: FFX-2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PuPu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    are we supposed to take this seriously??? Why would 7/8 fans dislike a game b/c its similar to the originals? I started with 7 and I like every game in the series.
    Did I say YOU? No, I said "many" as in the vast majority of VII and VIII fans that are never willing to consider the fact that there are other great FF's too and probably can't even explain why they like them using more than two sentences. And because most of them I have seen on other forums also happen to dislike Originals; some of them who haven't even played Originals say something like: "originals sux, there graphics r crap".
    You just contradicted your own argument. If they don't like the originals strictly on the basis of graphics, logically they would love IX as it had better backgrounds, character pixelation, and cutscenes than VII and VIII. I think you're leaving things out.

    Not to mention I've never seen anyone on this forum use that reason as to why they don't like the originals. Maybe you've seen that on other forums, that's your word.

    Everyone I know in real life who played VII past the third or so cutscene hated VIII and loved IX. In fact, I have one friend who only played part of VII for the cutscenes (as alot of people on here claim is the only reason), skipped out on VIII, but bought IX when it came out and got really hooked on it, moreso than the other RPGers I knew.

    So, again, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

    I think you and fans who share your sentiments need to come out and say it: the only reason people like VII more than the others are FMVs.

    But if you took more than 6 seconds to think about it, you'd realize there's an abundance of reasons why VII is much better than the first VI games, aside from graphics.
    Well, actually no. FFIX's graphics get ranked on a lot. I've heard complaints on the Big heads during the cut scenes, the fact that the battles looked too pixeclated (FFIX's battles actually where graphically inferior to VIII's because IX had to support a forth character), and I've also heard complaints by various fans of the character and city designs.

    Next, Yes there is more reason why FFVII has so many fans, let me name them...

    1. Sephiroth
    2. Futuristic (Also applies to FFVIII, people complain about IX not being futuristic, often not realizing the past all weren't futuristic)
    3. Tifa (yeah... XD)

    As for never hearing someone claim FFVII and VIII are better then the originals because of graphics...
    Yeah...

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    1. Sephiroth
    2. Futuristic (Also applies to FFVIII, people complain about IX not being futuristic, often not realizing the past all weren't futuristic)
    3. Tifa (yeah... XD)
    4. It was the first game most of them played.

    The most overrated game is the Final Fantasy series as a whole.
    The most underated game is any game other than the Final Fantasy series.

    Seriously, Final Fantasy gets too much credit for just being a successful knockoff of Dragon Warrior/Quest

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    overrated-- FFVII. Honestly, I thought the game was meh. Usually I'm obsessed with doing every sidequest and finding every treasure in an RPG, but FFVII made me stop caring about that and the FF series altogether, until IX rescued it for me. I will never, ever understand why this is the game with the most fanpersons.

    underrated-- This will sound like hyperbole, but I'm being completely serious: every other FF game seems underrated to me because of VII's undeserved popularity. Except II, II is the only one in the series I played that I actually hated. Otherwise, every game in the series is less popular than VII, which makes them all seem unappreciated because VII is really mediocre.

    And no, I'm not hating on FVII just because it's more popular than other FFs I love. I played the game with the highest of hopes for it, not imagining any other outcome than me loving the game as much as everyone else. I tried so hard to love it, but it wouldn't let me. The game really is underwhelming, that is my unbiased opinion.

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    Alright, I'll try to be clearer for you, Bolivar. Many VII/VIII fans do hate Originals because of their graphics. They also probably hate them for their "simple" storylines. They also probably hate them because of the fact its medieval-ish and not futuristic like VII/VIII, the story they are used to and first started off with. The same goes for IX, (excluding graphics) that it was not futuristic as the previous two. I'm just saying, there are a lot of people that I have seen that hate IX for those particular reasons. They are not willing to consider that IX could be anywhere as good as their first FF, which in the case is VII/VIII. Also, yeah, many VII and VIII fans that I have seen don't really get along, since they are about as equally ignorant and stubborn people saying that their favorite game is better.

    There are probably reasons why VII could be better than I-VI more than just the graphics. It's just that I've seen very few VII fans who are actually serious and go beyond just the graphics, which is what's said by the majority of ignorant VII fans, and one of the reasons why VII is the most liked. If you think VII is not overrated, you really need to go read the posts of certain people in the FFVII forum.

    Here I am, just simply telling what I have seen, and you come in and shove your own opinions down my throat saying that you like VII and IX along the lines of: "you're totally wrong, I liked them both, therefore every VII/VIII fan likes IX as well" with your earlier post. The fact is, you are 1 person who denies that there are MANY more VII fans who might have different views from you and might not like IX with just your sole opinion. The world does not revolve around YOU.

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    Overrated: VII
    Underrated: IV

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    Overrated: FFVII, VIII

    Thinking a game is overrated doesn't mean you dislike it, right? I honestly enjoyed playing Final Fantasy VII. I enjoyed it on a second play through, too. It just doesn't live up to the hype fans have built around it. It's a good game, but it's not the end-all-be-all of RPGs like some people seem to think it is.

    Similarly, I enjoy playing Final Fantasy VIII. The battle system is unique and fun, although it has some critical flaws (particularly the discouragement of using magic in favor of junctioning it to stats; by the end of the game I just spammed aura and meltdown on everything). The plot starts out fantastic as well, but wanes after the end of the second disc. The reason I say FFVIII is overrated is because so many of the fans seems to fawn over Squall and Rinoa's relationship as a beautiful, timeless romance. Really, there hasn't been such a romance in the Final Fantasy series ever; FFVIII spends so much time drawing attention to the romance that the player can notice all the flaws that have existed in previous love stories that didn't matter because they weren't the focus of the game.

    Underrated: FFIV, FFIX

    Final Fantasy IV is just awesome all around. Good soundtrack (FFIV: Celtic Moon, by the way, is one of my favorite Final Fantasy Albums), interesting characters, and incredibly memorable lines. You know of which one I speak.

    I've always loved Final Fantasy IX. The one thing that's always set Final Fantasy IX apart from other games in the series is the consistent novelty throughout. Most Final Fantasy are really impressive at the get-go. You spend the first few hours getting totally psyched as you get used to this new world. In most titles, that feelings wears off after the first quarter of the game or so. FFIX is the only FF title I've ever played where that feeling never went away.

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    Overrated: VII by a mile. I can't stand that game....

    Underrated: VIII seems to get too much hate. And IX is indeed hated by horrible idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roto13 View Post
    And IX is indeed hated by horrible idiots.
    I see what you did there.

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