Quote Originally Posted by boys from the dwarf View Post
Its not a good idea to use game mechanics to measure power.

Kuja is undoubtedly more powerful than any single character including beatrix. your party eventually becomes stronger Than Beatrix and its a real team effort beating kuja and kuja never truly loses because he takes them all with him. He kills the party and sends them to the hill of despair.

For those of you who aren't familiar with the whole, "The party dies" thing. When kuja casts ultima, Their bodies dissolve and dissapear if you look closely and then they appear in a place which definetly isn't below the crystal world, with souls wailing in the background.

Kuja had the power to save them though as shown at the end. Kuja has the power of 1000's of souls so reaching into the parties souls and restoring isn't beyond him.

it takes more to prove they survived the final ultima Than to prove they died.

I've had this discussion before so im not going to debate it.

anyway. at the end of disk 3, the party, working together, is more powerful than kuja and at the end of disk 4 they dont neccasarily win against kuja but they certainly defeat him. Beatrix being out of battle a lot because of the black mage army, allowed the group to surpass her.
Yes I am and always have been aware of the fact that they died when he casted Ultima on them. I also know that they are the only ones with power enough too beat him down enough to the point of Casting Ultima as a last resort and killing himself well almost as a result.

Though I also know that even if Beatrix kept training they still would surpass her, cause if you havent noticed the first time you fight her Zidane and Co are all so beat up that they cant move for a while(for as long as the first visit to Treno with Garnet and Steiner). The second battle both Zidane and Co along with Beatrix become tougher she wins again but only kept Zidane down for like 5 seconds. The third time they both still grew stronger and Zidane improved more than her still and was only down for like 3 secs.

So anyway she lived her richousness long enough! And besides it does not matter to her anyway since she has a change of heart.