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    To sum it up: Any Nintendo game that isn't first party, with some FPS and RPG exceptions (IE Tales of Symphonia and Red Steel).

    Final Fantasy XII just so much hate that it is ridicolous. It was just different being more political and epic and few people liked it because of it.

    Final Fantasy X-2. In short, it wasn't bad it could just be a lot better.

    Final Fantasy II: Ya...


    Other games:

    Dark Cloud 2 is never really talked about. It was a good game IMO, and if someone nevered mention it I would have never played this good
    game.

    Most non-shooter/racing games on the Xbox (like Oblivion is hardly ever talked about casually. The only time it is used is when it comes to comparing graphics, in which its screenshots are compared to other games. And that is just Oblivion. Morrowind is like unheard of except by ES fans)

    That is all I can think of at the moment.
    I couldn't agree more with you on these ones, especially XII, that game gets hated on way too much.

    Anyway there's only one game that comes to mind and that's Psychonauts, truly one of the best games and platformers to grace the PS2 and X-Box.

    What!? Um... Oblivion is talked about all the time. However I do agree that XII is hated tooooo much! I love that game! But yeah... Oblivion owns! And in case you haven't read my other hundred posts that has said it but; I just got it today! YAY!
    With exception to ES fan threads and graphical comparision threads, when is Oblivion talked about casually? Also it recieves quite a bit of hate too (mainly due to the PC versions controls), but yes... Here is a good example. Go onto an average forum and ask for "Help in Oblivion" or something related to Oblivion that is casual. It takes a relatively LONG time to get a response. But instead of Oblivion say it is Pokemon or Final Fatantasy VII or X or Animal Crossing or Mario Kart of Star Fox or Metroid Prime or Gears of War or Guitar Hero or... you get response relatively fast. ES on the other hand is ignored.

    So said too, it is an excellent game. I would call it a console seller but it is avaliable on the PC

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪ View Post
    FFXII's story doesn't appeal to me very well, but the gameplay is great.

    Unfortunately in RPGs the most important thing for me is the story. Then the music. Then the actual gameplay.
    Speaking of the devil (Oblivion is the devil, not you)...

    It really depends on the RPG. Most RPGs thrive and live on stories. But some great RPGs, heck some of the best RPGs get their because of gameplay. Pokemon and Oblivion come to mind. Story=mey, gameplay=AWESOME. Final Fantasy V is also one that has a mey story the gameplay is so well done that it is considered one of the better Final Fantasy's.

    With FFXII, there was actually a good story depending on your tastes. Makes sense for people who like RPGs not to like the story (perhaps more common in shooters or action games) but the story was just very political and not epic (excuse the type I said earlier). Sure the characters could have been better... It does come down to your tastes though, and there is no point in argueing that.
    Last edited by Zora; 05-13-2007 at 05:08 AM.

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