Nintendo Counts Down to Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[NGU]

I can't wait!!

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

He approaches stealthily with lithe jumps, coming right in then slicing repeatedly. Awww! It makes you want to use him as a playable character.

Sakurai!

[Lawr]

To me I think the series is going uphill from third-party characters.

Oh and Kishi, I really was hoping for him to be a characteer too, or Raiden.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Lucas's moveset is very lovely indeed.

I like the new Ness, I'm sure PK freeze will end up being more useful than PK flash was

THE JACKEL

[Skyblade]

True, but I'm a little sad that it means that Ness won't be returning.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

It doesn't, though. It's not as if past Smash games haven't had different characters with very similar, if not identical, move sets.

[Crossblades]

It doesn't, though. It's not as if past Smash games haven't had different characters with very similar, if not identical, move sets.

Mario and Luigi is a perfect example of that

[ljkkjlcm9]

It doesn't, though. It's not as if past Smash games haven't had different characters with very similar, if not identical, move sets.

Mario and Luigi is a perfect example of that

except, they specifically said no clone characters in Brawl. Don't ask me to look it up, it was said at some point in time. Which is why most people think Luigi will probably have his vacuum or something. They gave Mario F.L.U.D.D. probably to further differentiate between the two characters, if they're both in Brawl

THE JACKEL

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

It wouldn't be a "clone" situation anyway. Lucas's physical attacks are already different from Ness's.

[Craig]

There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now, and Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users.

Obviously that's doesn't mean Ness definately won't be in, but it kinda implies that he won't.

[Skyblade]

It wouldn't be a "clone" situation anyway. Lucas's physical attacks are already different from Ness's.

Yes, and Dr. Mario shot pills instead of fireballs. It's still a clone situation. 3 of the 4 special moves are the same (the PK Fire difference is so small as to be non-existant, like the difference between Pichu's Thundershock and Pikachu's Thundershock). Lucas is a Ness clone, so Ness almost certainly isn't going to be there.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

It wouldn't be a "clone" situation anyway. Lucas's physical attacks are already different from Ness's.

Yes, and Dr. Mario shot pills instead of fireballs. It's still a clone situation. 3 of the 4 special moves are the same (the PK Fire difference is so small as to be non-existant, like the difference between Pichu's Thundershock and Pikachu's Thundershock). Lucas is a Ness clone, so Ness almost certainly isn't going to be there.

Ness could be given an entirely new moveset, which I would much appreciate. I'm all for seeing PK Rockin'.

[Skyblade]

It wouldn't be a "clone" situation anyway. Lucas's physical attacks are already different from Ness's.

Yes, and Dr. Mario shot pills instead of fireballs. It's still a clone situation. 3 of the 4 special moves are the same (the PK Fire difference is so small as to be non-existant, like the difference between Pichu's Thundershock and Pikachu's Thundershock). Lucas is a Ness clone, so Ness almost certainly isn't going to be there.

Ness could be given an entirely new moveset, which I would much appreciate. I'm all for seeing PK Rockin'.

True, but I think it would be far more likely for them to have given Lucas a new moveset, and to have kept Ness' the way it was. If you notice, the veterans aren't exactly having huge overhauls to their movesets.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

It wouldn't be a "clone" situation anyway. Lucas's physical attacks are already different from Ness's.

Yes, and Dr. Mario shot pills instead of fireballs. It's still a clone situation. 3 of the 4 special moves are the same (the PK Fire difference is so small as to be non-existant, like the difference between Pichu's Thundershock and Pikachu's Thundershock). Lucas is a Ness clone, so Ness almost certainly isn't going to be there.

Ness could be given an entirely new moveset, which I would much appreciate. I'm all for seeing PK Rockin'.

True, but I think it would be far more likely for them to have given Lucas a new moveset, and to have kept Ness' the way it was. If you notice, the veterans aren't exactly having huge overhauls to their movesets.

I'm pointedly ignoring this fact in favor of blind hope

[Skyblade]

Personally, I think the whole Lucas/Ness thing is a perfect example of why clones should be left in. So what if two characters play nearly identically? Each person has their own reasons for playing the characters they choose, and it isn't always because they think the character has awesome moves. Most of us like Ness. Hell, I liked Pichu for goodness' sakes (yeah, he sucked, and I knew that but I still found his odd attack style and quirky movements fun enough to play. He wasn't nearly my favorite, and I think they made a stupid decision in giving self-damaging attacks to the lightest character in the game, but I would have rather seen him reworked than axed. Pichu with his tiny Beam Sword held in his mouth...). What's wrong with duplicating a moveset if it means that fans get to keep working with characters they know and love?