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    I remember when I kept rejecting last names given to me by all of you. For the American version of the game ONLY, I have decided their nationalities, as if they were living on Earth rather than a parallel universe. Sora/Roxas, Riku, and Kairi/Namine are Lebanese-Americans. Hayner, Pence, and Olette are Caucasian.

    So far, here's what I've come up with:

    Sora Abraham
    Kairi Shapira
    Riku Leila

    How do you like it?
    Is that your final answer?

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    I am still adamant that their names are:

    Sora Sora
    Riku Wristcut
    Kairi Pucelle
    Roxas only uses one name because he's a pimp like that.
    Naminé uses the surname "Little Miss Ownage of you, I haxxed j00 m3mories!!111eleven!1one."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    I remember when I kept rejecting last names given to me by all of you. For the American version of the game ONLY, I have decided their nationalities, as if they were living on Earth rather than a parallel universe. Sora/Roxas, Riku, and Kairi/Namine are Lebanese-Americans. Hayner, Pence, and Olette are Caucasian.

    So far, here's what I've come up with:

    Sora Abraham
    Kairi Shapira
    Riku Leila

    How do you like it?
    So Sora, Riku, and Roxas all just happen to be Lebanese-Americans? Seems very unlikely to me...

    And Leila is my niece's name (although it's spelled differently). I think you should change it to something that's more exotic and less first-nameish.

    And I also think Caucasian isn't a specific enough description. Polish, Danish, Italian, Albanian etc. would be much more fitting to describe their ethnicities, and thus easer to come up with a last name...

    Just don't name give Pence, Hayner, and Oletter names like "Goodheart", "Loveheart" or "Belevolentheart" etc. That would be hideously horrible.
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    Here we go again.

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    Doesn't their names means like sky (sora), land/shore (riku) and separation (kairi)? Or at least they are possible meanings for their names.

    Anyways, as in the words of Ouch!:

    Here we go again.
    EDIT: Maybe they want to be like Cher and Madonna and be known only by their first names?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynast-Kid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    I remember when I kept rejecting last names given to me by all of you. For the American version of the game ONLY, I have decided their nationalities, as if they were living on Earth rather than a parallel universe. Sora/Roxas, Riku, and Kairi/Namine are Lebanese-Americans. Hayner, Pence, and Olette are Caucasian.

    So far, here's what I've come up with:

    Sora Abraham
    Kairi Shapira
    Riku Leila

    How do you like it?
    So Sora, Riku, and Roxas all just happen to be Lebanese-Americans? Seems very unlikely to me...

    And Leila is my niece's name (although it's spelled differently). I think you should change it to something that's more exotic and less first-nameish.

    And I also think Caucasian isn't a specific enough description. Polish, Danish, Italian, Albanian etc. would be much more fitting to describe their ethnicities, and thus easer to come up with a last name...

    Just don't name give Pence, Hayner, and Oletter names like "Goodheart", "Loveheart" or "Belevolentheart" etc. That would be hideously horrible.
    LOL.

    I've heard of a last name called Lovejoy, but that would certainly be inappropriate here. Do you like Sora and Kairi's last names? I figured that although those names are Japanese in origin, they also sounded rather Middle Eastern to me, especially Kairi; a similar given name popular in the Middle East is Kaira.

    And perhaps Hayner, Pence, and Olette are either British, Irish, Australian, or New Zealander.

    Oooh, and the Destiny Islands will be miniscule islands off the coast of the big island of Hawaii, and perhaps Twilight Town could be located in California...
    Last edited by SuperMillionaire; 06-04-2007 at 06:27 PM.
    Is that your final answer?

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    I'm going to try and be mildly helpful this time around and make a suggestion. The name Riku can be either Japanese or Finnish in origin. Neither Sora nor Kairi have any significant connections to any ethnicity besides Japanese.

    That aside, I still stand by my previous belief (and that of many others). Trying to mix names with surnames of completely different origins ends up sounding ridiculous. I don't know what's so hard to understand or accept about that. Whether or not you're writing fan fiction based on the North American or Japanese release is entirely irrelevent. The names of the characters did not change in the translations except for slight romanization. I mean, had they changed Sora's name to Steve, Kairi's to Karen, and Riku's to Rick, then you'd have a good argument in your favor.

    This is not the case, however, and Sora Abraham is going to sound terrible no matter the context.

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    I'm basing the fan fiction on the AMERICAN version of the game. I understand the Japanese version will need Japanese last names, which will probably be translated by pronunciation (i.e. Cloud Strife = Kuraudo Sutoraifu or Tifa Lockhart = Tifa Rokkuhato).
    Is that your final answer?

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    Edit: You know what? Forget it. Arguing this point is futile anyway.

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    Sora the Explorer imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
    Sora the Explorer imo.
    This post just topped anything anybody else has, and probably will, come up with. :laugh:

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    Oh, by the way, although Sora and Kairi are Japanese in origin, the name Kailani means "sea and sky" in Hawaiian. As I said, the Destiny Islands will be part of Hawaii in my fan fiction.
    Is that your final answer?

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    Who made you the official last name maker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    I'm basing the fan fiction on the AMERICAN version of the game. I
    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch! View Post
    Whether or not you're writing fan fiction based on the North American or Japanese release is entirely irrelevent.
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    Who made you the official last name maker?
    Word.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Oh, by the way, although Sora and Kairi are Japanese in origin, the name Kailani means "sea and sky" in Hawaiian. As I said, the Destiny Islands will be part of Hawaii in my fan fiction.
    That's simply coincidental. But it is your fanfic, so do as you like. *shrugs*

    Also, what the heck is up with distinguishing between the Japanese and American releases of the game? I mean seriously, the only difference is that the American version is a translation (and probably slightly localized) version of the Japanese version. So how can you draw such a distinction when there is only a very slight one to begin with? I guess I am just repeating what Ouch! said, which is a good point. If they had given Sora et al, different names then I can see the point of drawing the distinction, but this is not like the early localization of anime where they totally massacre the original work and give the characters more English sounding names.


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