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    Everyones forgetting the fact that edgar has a cape INSTANT WIN!

    that and he has a castle that can swim in sand

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    Quote Originally Posted by f f freak View Post
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    Actually, Edgar isn't even a mage and can't cast Holy without the Espers anyways, so your point is irrelevant.
    Aeris needs Materia to use magic. And while she does have the holy materia the amount of time she spent praying Edgar could just stab her eyes out and watch as they don't bleed.
    Magic in FF7 is materia. It's like saying that a Black Mage from FF1 needs the Fire spell to cast Fire. Also, by having Edgar stab her while she's praying, you're putting Edgar in a situation where he would have an advantage. I could also give Aeris a similar advantage by putting Edgar at a distance far enough for her to cast a spell before he attacks.
    Also, just because Sephiroth is strong enough to kill Aeris, doesn't mean Edgar is as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuPu View Post
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    Actually, Edgar isn't even a mage and can't cast Holy without the Espers anyways, so your point is irrelevant.
    Aeris needs Materia to use magic. And while she does have the holy materia the amount of time she spent praying Edgar could just stab her eyes out and watch as they don't bleed.
    Magic in FF7 is materia. It's like saying that a Black Mage from FF1 needs the Fire spell to cast Fire. Also, by having Edgar stab her while she's praying, you're putting Edgar in a situation where he would have an advantage. I could also give Aeris a similar advantage by putting Edgar at a distance far enough for her to cast a spell before he attacks.
    Also, just because Sephiroth is strong enough to kill Aeris, doesn't mean Edgar is as well.
    I think the general assumption is that the two characters are fighting, and as such are within a range necessary to actually fight eachother. With that said, Holy doesn't come in to play since Aeris had to spend a fair amount of time praying to use it. Trying to would leave her vulnerable and ensure that even if she summons Holy, she still dies first. In a straight out fight, she still dies since she isn't much of a fighter and is no more proficient a mage than Edgar really. Like I said before, tools aside, one Ultima from Edgar ends it before Aeris can do anything worth noting.

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    BTW, Hazzard, Edgar is your avatar.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PuPu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by f f freak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PuPu
    Actually, Edgar isn't even a mage and can't cast Holy without the Espers anyways, so your point is irrelevant.
    Aeris needs Materia to use magic. And while she does have the holy materia the amount of time she spent praying Edgar could just stab her eyes out and watch as they don't bleed.
    Magic in FF7 is materia. It's like saying that a Black Mage from FF1 needs the Fire spell to cast Fire. Also, by having Edgar stab her while she's praying, you're putting Edgar in a situation where he would have an advantage. I could also give Aeris a similar advantage by putting Edgar at a distance far enough for her to cast a spell before he attacks.
    Also, just because Sephiroth is strong enough to kill Aeris, doesn't mean Edgar is as well.
    No. Of course you're right. Because a sword through the back can kill a person yet a drill in the face can't. Also Magic in FFVI is Espers. So if Aeris could have Materia then Edgar could have Espers. So therefore if Aeris could cast a spell from a distance then so could Edgar so there is still no advantage for Aeris.

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    I was under the impression that Holy in FFVII is only good to counter the Meteor spell. :P

    Edgar wins. He's sexy, he's the king of a castle that can move through sand, he's got a cape, and he's got a chainsaw. You don't want to piss off the guy with the chainsaw. Especially if he also has an auto-crossbow, a bio-blaster, a noise-blaster, a drill...

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    Well alright, I admit that I was wrong. In fact, I'm kind of glad I was wrong, since I do like Edgar better. But I still stand by the fact that Edgar cannot have magic. Aeris has the power of Holy based on the story of FF7, while Edgar's spells are just attacks in battle. When you say that Edgar has the power of magic, you are going into battle mechanics, which are a horrible way to determine fights. When I determine who would win fights, I look at their strengths and weaknesses through the storyline. The storyline of FF7 says Aeris gets Holy, but nowhere in FF6 does it say Edgar has Ultima or Holy, or whatever spell. In fact, if you think about it, Tools are also just attacks in battle, since I never remember the story saying anything about his tools, and shouldn't be counted unless you use battle mechanics. But still, I guess almost anyone could kill Aeris before she even uses Holy...

    I don't think it's possible for me to change my vote anymore though. Oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuPu View Post
    Well alright, I admit that I was wrong. In fact, I'm kind of glad I was wrong, since I do like Edgar better. But I still stand by the fact that Edgar cannot have magic. Aeris has the power of Holy based on the story of FF7, while Edgar's spells are just attacks in battle. When you say that Edgar has the power of magic, you are going into battle mechanics, which are a horrible way to determine fights. When I determine who would win fights, I look at their strengths and weaknesses through the storyline. The storyline of FF7 says Aeris gets Holy, but nowhere in FF6 does it say Edgar has Ultima or Holy, or whatever spell. In fact, if you think about it, Tools are also just attacks in battle, since I never remember the story saying anything about his tools, and shouldn't be counted unless you use battle mechanics. But still, I guess almost anyone could kill Aeris before she even uses Holy...

    I don't think it's possible for me to change my vote anymore though. Oh well.
    Technically though, it was her Aeris mothers materia that let her use Holy and if you count that, then counting other materia and Espers has to be valid. As for Tools, I see the point about not using battle mechanics to determine what they could do, but then, you don't need battle mechanics to tell you what a chainsaw would do to Aeris' face really, especially considering she's a terrible hand to hand fighter.

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    I don't care who wins quina lost so this thread fails anyway

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    Edgar-9 Aeris-3 Edgar implaes Aeris with imaginary toothpicks!

    Next,

    Kimahri VS Balthier
    Even though I prefer Balthier, Kimahri's skills will kill him.



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    Lol this ones interesting

    balthier just cus he can run kimarhi over with the strahl

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    I'll give it to Balthier though it could go either way. The way I see it, Kimahri uses Jump and Balthier shoots him out of the air.

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    Kimahri would win because he would just need to use lancet until Balthier falls.

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    Balthier. He IS the leading man.

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    Hm... It would come down to a battle of strength, since neither really specialises in magic. And a Ronso would be naturally that much stronger than a human... so Kimahri.
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