New theories

[Serapy]

Everybody in that timeline are descendants of ultimecia

[Bolivar]

If Gilgamesh went through dimensional travel, then Rinoa may have the chance to do that since she has some power of a sorceress, maybe it's not true but who knows. Adel held Rinoa, was that when Gilgamesh showed up? Would make sense if Rinoa was involved with Gilgamesh.

Gilgamesh shows up in one of the final battles with Seifer on Disc 3. If you have Odin, he shows up in the beginning of the battle as if he's about to provide an instant kill, but Seifer slays the legendary summon. Zantetsuken flies out of his hand and slices through the sky, and I believe it cut an opening in the dimensional interval, creating an opening in the N-Zone, where Gilgamesh was banished in FFV, allowing him to come into Squall's world.

I don't think there are different dimensions, the closest thing would be alternate futures, as in the past's future (before the final battle) Ultimecia is a threat, whereas after that point, the timeloop is broken and that is no longer happening. Although she does go and enter Edea after that is done, the whole series of events is locked into the past.
All that being said, how could Rinoa be Ultimecia's descendent if Ultimecia lives in a time far in the future from Rinoa's?

[Serapy]

All that being said, how could Rinoa be Ultimecia's descendent if Ultimecia lives in a time far in the future from Rinoa's?

Rinoa gave birth to someone, and that someone gave birth to someone else, so on and on using some special bonds, until Ultimecia (giving birth from past ------> future (Ultimecia) . I mean ultimecia can't just exist unless someone gave birth to her, but I don't know who, that's why I mentioned Rinoa is a descendent of Ultimecia.

Rinoa's wings are white, Ultimecia's wings are black, what was the point of that? The white ones were to represent love, etc, and the black ones were to represent evil, etc, but I don't see the point in that, so I thought I'd safety assume that they are involved in something, thus, either Rinoa is a part of Ultimecia or Rinoa = Ultimecia.

As for Zell, I don't know... there should be a big plot between Zell and Ultimecia, I can't just find it, apart from thier similarity.

[Future Esthar]

Everybody in that timeline are descendants of ultimecia

Exactly, Ragnosica.

This is as silly as Viper and Company dying on the Dead Sea.
But we know why this isn´t silly, right?

Any chance that you're confusing the Chrono series with the FF though?

Considering the obvious similarities like the weapon upgrading system,the 3D realistic rendering on the field,the time travel team,etc,we can safely assume both games are related.

I don't think there are different dimensions, the closest thing would be alternate futures, as in the past's future (before the final battle) Ultimecia is a threat, whereas after that point, the timeloop is broken and that is no longer happening. Although she does go and enter Edea after that is done, the whole series of events is locked into the past.

Square don´t wanna spoil the secret storyline of FF8.That´s why the concept is not heard in the game.But they are trying to give us more clues on Chrono Cross.

All that being said, how could Rinoa be Ultimecia's descendent if Ultimecia lives in a time far in the future from Rinoa's?

There is no evidence Ulti lives on the future even though some people tells us that.I can safely assume she lives on the furthest past were the dimensions split.

[licence]

Exactly.It is the U dimension.
Edea is called Ultimecia on this dimension.
She married Seifer and gave birth to Rinoa.
Rinoa married Squall and gave birth to Zell.
Zell married Quistis and gave birth to Selphie which married Irvine.
They were a Dinasty of Centra Kings which came from another planet.
Seifer is the sun of Raijin and Fujin.

...No...just no...I mean, send some of what you're smoking over here.

[Future Esthar]

The game happens on the K dimension.It was just at the end that they traveled to the U dimension.

[licence]

What is your evidence for that?

[Future Esthar]

There is a little light on the beach of Edea´s house when our characters go to Ulti´s reign.
Did you ever note how the house is on the southwestern tip of the Centra Continent?Familiar?

[Ramza Beoulve]

Future Esthar, sorry, but you have been playing a little TOO much Chrono Cross, and I actually love that game.

The beach light? you took it from before the fight with the time devourer. The clon thing? Schala and Kid. Dimensions? Home dimension and Another dimension from Serge perspective. The control of Ultimecia by Griever? the fusion of the time devourer with Schala. This game was developed by a completely different team because it was being developed nearly AT THE SAME TIME than FFVIII, and it was made to answer the question of WHERE SCHALA WENT after the awakening of Lavos in 12,000 bc in Chrono Trigger, having noting to do with the FFVIII universe. It wasn't made to answer questions from FFVIII because I think the developers didn't have the time to analyze them first, you know, the developing of videogames takes a lot of time, and you have to focus in that. MAYBE they could have similar things, like some time and space theories, the developing of weapons, the 3D rendering, but it is because the publisher company was Square, for the 3D rendering and the weapons, and because the Chrono series are made around "Time and space theories".

Oh, and another thing... VIDEOGAMES ANYONE?

[ReloadPsi]

Just answer me one question: How many forums, online communities and message boards were you laughed out of before coming here?

[Dr. Acula]

Everyone's a descendant of Ultimecia? Hmm, makes TOTAL sense, considering Ultimecia lives in the FUTURE and the FF8 team live in the PRESENT. Maybe you got "descendants" and "ancestors" mixed up?
And also, Rinoa is in no way a clone to Ellone. She didn't get the people out of prison by sending Zell to the past (Ellone did that... and Zell pretty much mentioned that even though he was Ward in the dream he still didn't know his way around, so it didn't help them at all). Rinoa got them out of prison by going in and showing our FF8 team the way out.
And if all the FF8 team fused to become Adel, they'd be fighting themselves, no? Wouldn't that mean they either would drop dead after defeating her, or feel pain if they attacked her or something?

Hey, here's an idea... all the characters in FF8 could be unrelated unless stated so in the game or stated by Square.
Sorry if that post sounded nasty but I don't see any evidence to back up your claims, FE or Serapy.

[Serapy]

Just answer me one question: How many forums, online communities and message boards were you laughed out of before coming here?

Uhh, I don't think I'm laughing at him nor not everybody has laughed at him. He has made very very interesting theories, he's the only one who made me play FF8 again, I love that game already.

[ragnosica]

the only thing that could convince me to play FF8 again would be a time machine

[licence]

I think you're wrong Serapy and most people who have seen these theories are currently lying on the ground in fits of laughter. Come on, Propagtors ruling Centra....

[Rocket Edge]

First of all, I want to welcome you back FE, the VIII forum has been boring without you.

2-I wonder whether Rinoa is a clone of Ellone or the other way around?I believe the first thing.
She was meant to save our characters at the prision by sending Zell´s consciousness to the past.That way,dimension S came to exist.

This bit is interesting. I'm not too sure on the whole story, but from what I can interpret, this could make sense.

Seifer is the sun of Raijin and Fujin.

I don't know the point being made from that segment, but based on religious facts, that is true.

I'm not too sure on this whole theory yet, i'll have to read back over it al before I can pass judgement.