the orphanage

[f f freak]

I hated it. Big time.

Basically the entire idea the orphanage was...

Square Writer: OH CRAP! We forgot to thrown in pasts on the other characters to make them relate!
Some other Square Writer: I know, we can explain all of their backgrounds in ONE REALLY BIG CRAPPY SCENE!
Square Writer: But uh... how will they be connected?
Other Writer: I know! We'll pick random cliches out of a hat.
*Picks out of hat*
Square Writer: Hmm... We could orphans.
Other Writer: Cool, make up some crap why they couldn't remember it and throw this cliche in a huge scene after the bombing, I mean we where looking to put something there anyway.

Yeah... That sums up why I hate it so.

can i call you moldy boko?!

No you can't call him moldy boko. You should learn to not get so mad about such trivial matters. I completely agree with you Boko.

[Karellen]

I understand the intentions of the dialog. My point is that the scene doesn’t indicate anything in particular beyond Squall having perhaps heard the name before to someone who is playing the game for the first time.

That is the beuty of FF games, at least most of them especially this one, you don't get everthing the first time.

I don't know how many people do this, but I often had more than one saves at a time, I would get so far with my first save and when I got stuck, I would either take a break with another game, or I would start this game at the begining on another save, to (a) enjoy the game threw up to the point where I got stuck, (b) See if I missed anything and (c) see if by some flute, I could be stronger by the time I got to that point and continue there.

When on my main save I saw the orphange scene, I was facinated, it was one of thoes moments where I could have just shouted OMFG (In full) there and then. I contiued a bit and (I can't remember if I got stuck, or just decided to) I stopped with this save and looked though some of my older ones, to see if anything linked up or hinted to this moment, the mention of Edea's name was the first I noticed, that's probably why I was able to explain it better than the other ones, as it was the first and I've had time, it's easier to explain, because it is easier to understand.

But none of that changes the fact that said the scene fails to foreshadow the orphanage scene itself, because in order to understand it's significance within the plot you have to have foreknowledge of the direction the plot will take. It's not really good enough for a story to only leave incredibly vague musings that could be taken any which way as the sole means of foreshadowing the games most (or second most, depending on how you look at it) prominent plot twist.

[Goldenboko]

I hated it. Big time.

Basically the entire idea the orphanage was...

Square Writer: OH CRAP! We forgot to thrown in pasts on the other characters to make them relate!
Some other Square Writer: I know, we can explain all of their backgrounds in ONE REALLY BIG CRAPPY SCENE!
Square Writer: But uh... how will they be connected?
Other Writer: I know! We'll pick random cliches out of a hat.
*Picks out of hat*
Square Writer: Hmm... We could orphans.
Other Writer: Cool, make up some crap why they couldn't remember it and throw this cliche in a huge scene after the bombing, I mean we where looking to put something there anyway.

Yeah... That sums up why I hate it so.

can i call you moldy boko?!

Only if I could call you Crappy Conventional.

[Cool Revolutionary]

I hated it. Big time.

Basically the entire idea the orphanage was...

Square Writer: OH CRAP! We forgot to thrown in pasts on the other characters to make them relate!
Some other Square Writer: I know, we can explain all of their backgrounds in ONE REALLY BIG CRAPPY SCENE!
Square Writer: But uh... how will they be connected?
Other Writer: I know! We'll pick random cliches out of a hat.
*Picks out of hat*
Square Writer: Hmm... We could orphans.
Other Writer: Cool, make up some crap why they couldn't remember it and throw this cliche in a huge scene after the bombing, I mean we where looking to put something there anyway.

Yeah... That sums up why I hate it so.

can i call you moldy boko?!

No you can't call him moldy boko. You should learn to not get so mad about such trivial matters. I completely agree with you Boko.

first of all i dont find it to be trivial, (some would say "dont take it so seriously!" but so what) but that isnt the point. if he expressed that he didnt like it in a sensible manner, no problem...however TRYING to totally make a mockery of something (like he did) is just plain irritating.
anyway, he would have to be a sensitive soul to be upset about that.

I hated it. Big time.

Basically the entire idea the orphanage was...

Square Writer: OH CRAP! We forgot to thrown in pasts on the other characters to make them relate!
Some other Square Writer: I know, we can explain all of their backgrounds in ONE REALLY BIG CRAPPY SCENE!
Square Writer: But uh... how will they be connected?
Other Writer: I know! We'll pick random cliches out of a hat.
*Picks out of hat*
Square Writer: Hmm... We could orphans.
Other Writer: Cool, make up some crap why they couldn't remember it and throw this cliche in a huge scene after the bombing, I mean we where looking to put something there anyway.

Yeah... That sums up why I hate it so.

can i call you moldy boko?!

Only if I could call you Crappy Conventional.

i dont want that name so, lets scrap moldy boko...and ill let you keep the fitting name of crappy conventional.

[f f freak]

first of all i dont find it to be trivial, (some would say "dont take it so seriously!" but so what) but that isnt the point. if he expressed that he didnt like it in a sensible manner, no problem...however TRYING to totally make a mockery of something (like he did) is just plain irritating.

He wasn't trying to make a total mockery of it. He did make a total mockery of it. Though it wasn't really a mockery. More like the truth.

[Mirage]

The scene is okay, but it is a bit random. I can like it if I disregard that it came completely out of the blue. And it was definitely not the gameplay that was the downer in this game.

[Goldenboko]

I hated it. Big time.

Basically the entire idea the orphanage was...

Square Writer: OH CRAP! We forgot to thrown in pasts on the other characters to make them relate!
Some other Square Writer: I know, we can explain all of their backgrounds in ONE REALLY BIG CRAPPY SCENE!
Square Writer: But uh... how will they be connected?
Other Writer: I know! We'll pick random cliches out of a hat.
*Picks out of hat*
Square Writer: Hmm... We could orphans.
Other Writer: Cool, make up some crap why they couldn't remember it and throw this cliche in a huge scene after the bombing, I mean we where looking to put something there anyway.

Yeah... That sums up why I hate it so.

can i call you moldy boko?!

No you can't call him moldy boko. You should learn to not get so mad about such trivial matters. I completely agree with you Boko.

first of all i dont find it to be trivial, (some would say "dont take it so seriously!" but so what) but that isnt the point. if he expressed that he didnt like it in a sensible manner, no problem...however TRYING to totally make a mockery of something (like he did) is just plain irritating.
anyway, he would have to be a sensitive soul to be upset about that.

Of course I made a mockery of it, I find the entire thing to be a mockery in general. But in general though I feel I just made an exaggeration of the truth. The entire thing did seem very thrown together at the last moment, very cliche, and like something just put in there because they needed something to fill a gap.


In general all I can say though is...

I DO WANT! You got problem?

[BlackMage2007]

I Thought It Took To Long!

If They Shortened It Down I Would Have Been Happy It Just Seems Like Im Tapping The X Key And Walking Around Pointlessly For ABOUT 20 FRIGGIN MINUTES! lol!


I Did Find It Cute Though!

But I Was So Eager To Get To The Best Part In The Game

BALAMB GARDEN VS GALBADIA GARDEN

[MJN SEIFER]

I understand the intentions of the dialog. My point is that the scene doesn’t indicate anything in particular beyond Squall having perhaps heard the name before to someone who is playing the game for the first time.

That is the beuty of FF games, at least most of them especially this one, you don't get everthing the first time.

I don't know how many people do this, but I often had more than one saves at a time, I would get so far with my first save and when I got stuck, I would either take a break with another game, or I would start this game at the begining on another save, to (a) enjoy the game threw up to the point where I got stuck, (b) See if I missed anything and (c) see if by some flute, I could be stronger by the time I got to that point and continue there.

When on my main save I saw the orphange scene, I was facinated, it was one of thoes moments where I could have just shouted OMFG (In full) there and then. I contiued a bit and (I can't remember if I got stuck, or just decided to) I stopped with this save and looked though some of my older ones, to see if anything linked up or hinted to this moment, the mention of Edea's name was the first I noticed, that's probably why I was able to explain it better than the other ones, as it was the first and I've had time, it's easier to explain, because it is easier to understand.

But none of that changes the fact that said the scene fails to foreshadow the orphanage scene itself, because in order to understand it's significance within the plot you have to have foreknowledge of the direction the plot will take. It's not really good enough for a story to only leave incredibly vague musings that could be taken any which way as the sole means of foreshadowing the games most (or second most, depending on how you look at it) prominent plot twist.

as I said, it's more of a hint, you need to know it's forshadowing.

[Cool Revolutionary]

first of all i dont find it to be trivial, (some would say "dont take it so seriously!" but so what) but that isnt the point. if he expressed that he didnt like it in a sensible manner, no problem...however TRYING to totally make a mockery of something (like he did) is just plain irritating.

He wasn't trying to make a total mockery of it. He did make a total mockery of it. Though it wasn't really a mockery. More like the truth.

"good one boko" is it? i thought it was a bit pathetic, kind of like in the silly way youve changed my name on the quote there. in fact it is pathetic, but to you being boko's "biggest fan" it must of seemed great. dont send him to many fan e-mails.:rolleyes2
no, i said trying because he did only try.
the post he made looked like it was written by a 8 year old, and didnt make any sense. so he didnt succeed.

[f f freak]

first of all i dont find it to be trivial, (some would say "dont take it so seriously!" but so what) but that isnt the point. if he expressed that he didnt like it in a sensible manner, no problem...however TRYING to totally make a mockery of something (like he did) is just plain irritating.

He wasn't trying to make a total mockery of it. He did make a total mockery of it. Though it wasn't really a mockery. More like the truth.

"good one boko" is it? i thought it was a bit pathetic, kind of like in the silly way youve changed my name on the quote there. in fact it is pathetic, but to you being boko's "biggest fan" it must of seemed great. dont send him to many fan e-mails.:rolleyes2
no, i said trying because he did only try.
the post he made looked like it was written by a 8 year old, and didnt make any sense. so he didnt succeed.

No. He succeeded. You're just too infatuated with the game to notice what he said is completely true. And yes I am a fan of Boko. His Playin' threads are comical genius. Although the rubbish that comes out of your mouth is quite funny as well. And I don't send him e-mails. In fact I doubt i'm his biggest fan. He has many.
And I'll tell you what's really pathetic. You trying to defend your little scene. Go ahead and try.

[Cool Revolutionary]

first of all i dont find it to be trivial, (some would say "dont take it so seriously!" but so what) but that isnt the point. if he expressed that he didnt like it in a sensible manner, no problem...however TRYING to totally make a mockery of something (like he did) is just plain irritating.

He wasn't trying to make a total mockery of it. He did make a total mockery of it. Though it wasn't really a mockery. More like the truth.

"good one boko" is it? i thought it was a bit pathetic, kind of like in the silly way youve changed my name on the quote there. in fact it is pathetic, but to you being boko's "biggest fan" it must of seemed great. dont send him to many fan e-mails.:rolleyes2
no, i said trying because he did only try.
the post he made looked like it was written by a 8 year old, and didnt make any sense. so he didnt succeed.

No. He succeeded. You're just too infatuated with the game to notice what he said is completely true. And yes I am a fan of Boko. His Playin' threads are comical genius. Although the rubbish that comes out of your mouth is quite funny as well. And I don't send him e-mails. In fact I doubt i'm his biggest fan. He has many.
And I'll tell you what's really pathetic. You trying to defend your little scene. Go ahead and try.

you think i need to defend something against idiots like you?
i dont care if you dont like it, your loss if you dont appreciate it. i only pointed out irritation i felt by his childish post. what he said is completely true? so he was in square when they written the script?
its not completely true if it was completely true it'd be fact. its his opinion. square didnt make an announcement saying "we screwed up the plot guys!" its only his view on the matter its not completely true.
and please stop kissin bokos butt, youll even make him sick eventually.
and...well im glad you find my rubbish funny
because im finding yours boring.
please....back to subject.

[f f freak]

first of all i dont find it to be trivial, (some would say "dont take it so seriously!" but so what) but that isnt the point. if he expressed that he didnt like it in a sensible manner, no problem...however TRYING to totally make a mockery of something (like he did) is just plain irritating.

He wasn't trying to make a total mockery of it. He did make a total mockery of it. Though it wasn't really a mockery. More like the truth.

"good one boko" is it? i thought it was a bit pathetic, kind of like in the silly way youve changed my name on the quote there. in fact it is pathetic, but to you being boko's "biggest fan" it must of seemed great. dont send him to many fan e-mails.:rolleyes2
no, i said trying because he did only try.
the post he made looked like it was written by a 8 year old, and didnt make any sense. so he didnt succeed.

No. He succeeded. You're just too infatuated with the game to notice what he said is completely true. And yes I am a fan of Boko. His Playin' threads are comical genius. Although the rubbish that comes out of your mouth is quite funny as well. And I don't send him e-mails. In fact I doubt i'm his biggest fan. He has many.
And I'll tell you what's really pathetic. You trying to defend your little scene. Go ahead and try.

you think i need to defend something against idiots like you?
i dont care if you dont like it, your loss if you dont appreciate it. i only pointed out irritation i felt by his childish post. what he said is completely true? so he was in square when they written the script?
its not completely true if it was completely true it'd be fact. its his opinion. square didnt make an announcement saying "we screwed up the plot guys!" its only his view on the matter its not completely true.
and please stop kissin bokos butt, youll even make him sick eventually.
and...well im glad you find my rubbish funny
because im finding yours boring.
please....back to subject.

I find it incredibly difficult to kiss someone's butt when I have no idea where they live. And I fail to see how we are the idiots. You're the one getting all angry because someone stated their opinion. Please follow your own advice. You were the one to go off topic first.

[Goldenboko]

What the hell? How did this thread turn into a huge hate thread?

I used a little term called Exaggeration, to take something that was partly true, make it a bit funny, and support my argument.

I hated it. Big time.

Basically the entire idea the orphanage was...

Square Writer: OH CRAP! We forgot to thrown in pasts on the other characters to make them relate!
Some other Square Writer: I know, we can explain all of their backgrounds in ONE REALLY BIG CRAPPY SCENE!
Square Writer: But uh... how will they be connected?
Other Writer: I know! We'll pick random cliches out of a hat.
*Picks out of hat*
Square Writer: Hmm... We could orphans.
Other Writer: Cool, make up some crap why they couldn't remember it and throw this cliche in a huge scene after the bombing, I mean we where looking to put something there anyway.

Yeah... That sums up why I hate it so.

can i call you moldy boko?!

Only if I could call you Crappy Conventional.

That was just suppose to be sarcasm. I know you've heard of it. Sarcasm can by funny, f f freak, probably thought it was funny, so she continued the joke.

How my post looked like it was made by an 8-year old, I don't know how your getting, especially when your responses look like this.

you think i need to defend something against idiots like you?
i dont care if you dont like it, your loss if you dont appreciate it. i only pointed out irritation i felt by his childish post. what he said is completely true? so he was in square when they written the script?
its not completely true if it was completely true it'd be fact. its his opinion. square didnt make an announcement saying "we screwed up the plot guys!" its only his view on the matter its not completely true.
and please stop kissin bokos butt, youll even make him sick eventually.
and...well im glad you find my rubbish funny
because im finding yours boring.
please....back to subject.

f f freak was asking you to support your argument on how the orphanage scene was a piece of good writing. That's it, nothing personal, and you wouldn't have taken it that way if you would just realize this is a forum. There are many different opinions here, and they're not always going to agree, thats why forums are made, so people debate and make arguments, defend arguments, and perhaps learn a little on what they think...

Now please stop with the off topic flaming, everyone.

[Cool Revolutionary]

I Thought It Took To Long!

If They Shortened It Down I Would Have Been Happy It Just Seems Like Im Tapping The X Key And Walking Around Pointlessly For ABOUT 20 FRIGGIN MINUTES! lol!


I Did Find It Cute Though!

But I Was So Eager To Get To The Best Part In The Game

BALAMB GARDEN VS GALBADIA GARDEN

my favourite part in the game too! the orphanage, then battle of the gardens make the last part of disc 2 spectacular!

first of all i dont find it to be trivial, (some would say "dont take it so seriously!" but so what) but that isnt the point. if he expressed that he didnt like it in a sensible manner, no problem...however TRYING to totally make a mockery of something (like he did) is just plain irritating.

He wasn't trying to make a total mockery of it. He did make a total mockery of it. Though it wasn't really a mockery. More like the truth.

"good one boko" is it? i thought it was a bit pathetic, kind of like in the silly way youve changed my name on the quote there. in fact it is pathetic, but to you being boko's "biggest fan" it must of seemed great. dont send him to many fan e-mails.:rolleyes2
no, i said trying because he did only try.
the post he made looked like it was written by a 8 year old, and didnt make any sense. so he didnt succeed.

No. He succeeded. You're just too infatuated with the game to notice what he said is completely true. And yes I am a fan of Boko. His Playin' threads are comical genius. Although the rubbish that comes out of your mouth is quite funny as well. And I don't send him e-mails. In fact I doubt i'm his biggest fan. He has many.
And I'll tell you what's really pathetic. You trying to defend your little scene. Go ahead and try.

you think i need to defend something against idiots like you?
i dont care if you dont like it, your loss if you dont appreciate it. i only pointed out irritation i felt by his childish post. what he said is completely true? so he was in square when they written the script?
its not completely true if it was completely true it'd be fact. its his opinion. square didnt make an announcement saying "we screwed up the plot guys!" its only his view on the matter its not completely true.
and please stop kissin bokos butt, youll even make him sick eventually.
and...well im glad you find my rubbish funny
because im finding yours boring.
please....back to subject.

I find it incredibly difficult to kiss someone's butt when I have no idea where they live. And I fail to see how we are the idiots. You're the one getting all angry because someone stated their opinion. Please follow your own advice. You were the one to go off topic first.

i went off topic with reason....lets leave it at that so i can have a nice thread.