Aeris/Aerith

[grim07]

Im callin bull on this. Several thousand copies? If that were so, then everyone would be runnin around callin her "Aerith."

And funny that, a damn good portion of the demographic do.

And I dont recall a demo even being made for FFVII.

Google it.

And whats this "official art profile" your speaking of.

The original art, drawn by Nomura, with character details in Japanese, and her name in English and Katakana. All the characters have them.

If you have links to any of this FROM Sqauresoft, then I'll believe you. Otherwise, I think your lying through your teeth.

http://www.ffshrine.org/ff7/nomuraart/ff7_4.jpg
http://www.ffshrine.org/ff7/nomuraart/ff7_3.jpg
http://www.ffshrine.org/ff7/nomuraart/ff7_15.jpg

Does a "C Nomura" count?
Also, "you're" lying though your teeth. Since a possesive of lying through my teeth makes no sense.

And wasnt that art also JAPANESE? Isnt her name, in Japan, AERITH?

Proves nothing, my boy. Sorry.

Wasn't the game also Japanese?

When it came out in America, her name was switched to Aeris. For pronunciation purposes. Not mistranslation. So her name in FFVII in America is Aeris, and it was meant to be that way.

[Big D]

When it came out in America, her name was switched to Aeris. For pronunciation purposes. Not mistranslation. So her name in FFVII in America is Aeris, and it was meant to be that way.

But then, there's no harm in updating her name in future uses, in order to attain greater consistency. The character's creators called her 'Aerith'; that was modified for aesthetic reasons in the English translations; but nonetheless she was originally called 'Aerith' by the artists who conceived the character. If someone in the English-speaking world prefers to call her 'Aeris', then so be it. However, since that name only appears in the English-language script for the original game, and not in any of the subsequent or supporting materials, it's arguably not her officially canonical name.

In Japan, the character designer's name is Nomura Tetsuya. In the west, this is anglicised to Tetsuya Nomura. Does that mean that his name is "really" Tetsuya Nomura, when he's discussed outside Japan? Surely his "real" name is the one he was given, the one he had originally. His name doesn't actually change as it crosses borders; it's simply altered slightly for largely aesthetic reasons.

Edit: People are still acting way too angsty over this. Seriously, it's not something that should be able to trigger genuine hostility...

[Garnie]

lets just agree to disagree!
its Aerisith

[grim07]

I'll say this once again.

Her name, in the American version of Final Fantasy VII is Aeris.

I dont care about future releases, what her name was in Japan, what they wanted it to be,

HER NAME IN THE AMERICAN VERSION OF FINAL FANTASY VII WAS AERIS. THERE IS NO GETTING AROUND THAT.

[Ryushikaze]

And wasnt that art also JAPANESE? Isnt her name, in Japan, AERITH?

Proves nothing, my boy. Sorry.

It proves that her name is originally and in the prime source Aerith.

When it came out in America, her name was switched to Aeris. For pronunciation purposes. Not mistranslation. So her name in FFVII in America is Aeris, and it was meant to be that way.

So, I take it you say Sephiros, then? Because his 'th' uses the same kana as Aerith's 'th' So, unless you argue that he's Sephiros, your translation Bull:skull::skull::skull::skull:, which doesn't fly because I actually speak the language, is simple pleading.

I'll say this once again.

Her name, in the American version of Final Fantasy VII is Aeris.

I dont care about future releases, what her name was in Japan, what they wanted it to be,

HER NAME IN THE AMERICAN VERSION OF FINAL FANTASY VII WAS AERIS. THERE IS NO GETTING AROUND THAT.

It was also Aerith. It continues to be Aerith. There is no getting around that either. Her official name is, has been, and continues to be Aerith, both in Japan, the prime source, and in the translated materials. Accept this and move on.

[grim07]

Well, I dont know how else to tell you except this.

Turn on the game.

Play till you fall in the church

When the flower girl says "By the way, I'm..."

WHAT IS THE DEFAULT NAME THAT IS SHOWN?

[Goldenboko]

Well, I dont know how else to tell you except this.

Turn on the game.

Play till you fall in the church

When the flower girl says "By the way, I'm..."

WHAT IS THE DEFAULT NAME THAT IS SHOWN?

You fail to see the point. Translations can have errors, translations can be changed. Square said Aerith's official name was Aerith, so Aerith it is.

[The Ceej]

So, I take it you say Sephiros, then? Because his 'th' uses the same kana as Aerith's 'th' So, unless you argue that he's Sephiros, your translation Bull, which doesn't fly because I actually speak the language, is simple pleading.

Did you see my previous post? Listen to the choir in the song, One Winged Angel. They are ending Sephiroth's name with the S sound. So it sounds like Sephiross. So, yeah. It makes perfect sense that they would have changed her name for American pronounciation reasons. Besides, the name Sephiross just looks gay. So, I guess they figured that they could accept our pronouncing his name a little wrong just for the looks of the name.

Just a note: I am neutral on this argument. I don't care if her name is spelled Arieth or Aries and why. So to argue with me would be moot point. If you try, there's an understood, "Whatever."

[Zeromus_X]

Did you see my previous post? Listen to the choir in the song, One Winged Angel. They are ending Sephiroth's name with the S sound. So it sounds like Sephiross. So, yeah. It makes perfect sense that they would have changed her name for American pronounciation reasons. Besides, the name Sephiross just looks gay. So, I guess they figured that they could accept our pronouncing his name a little wrong just for the looks of the name.

The official romanization of Sephiroth's name is Sephiroth. Sephiroth's name is Sephiroth. Like many other sounds, the Japanese cannot always reproduce the 'th' sound, and replace it with 's' as a compensation (which I think I explained a ways back). This does not make Sephiroth's name any different in English, which it is based off.

[Jessweeee♪]

lets just agree to disagree!
its Aerisith

[Ryushikaze]

Well, I dont know how else to tell you except this.

Turn on the game.

Play till you fall in the church

When the flower girl says "By the way, I'm..."

WHAT IS THE DEFAULT NAME THAT IS SHOWN?

Turn on KH1. Turn on KH2. Play til you meet the long haired girl in pink. Read what her name is written as in the name portion of the talk bubble.
Alternately, turn on FF7AC: go to the credits, look for the part that says Gainsborough. Read the name to the left.

I'd also like to point out the flaw in your argument that is the craptacular translation job given to FF7. It also gave us Lockheart where the Japanese had Lockhart, this guy are sick, and other errors, omissions and interpolations up the wazoo.
Meanwhile, I'm pointing out that even her creator writes her english name with 'th'. I can also, if you give me time, find a quote where they say that they wanted a name similar to "Earth" when designing Aerith.

Did you see my previous post? Listen to the choir in the song, One Winged Angel. They are ending Sephiroth's name with the S sound. So it sounds like Sephiross. So, yeah. It makes perfect sense that they would have changed her name for American pronounciation reasons.

But didn't change Sephiroth? It does not follow.

Besides, the name Sephiross just looks gay.

Irrelevant and wholly subjective.

So, I guess they figured that they could accept our pronouncing his name a little wrong just for the looks of the name.

Or, OR, they have trouble pronouncing 'th' which is why "Earth" sounds like "Aasu" when said by a Japanese person.

Just a note: I am neutral on this argument. I don't care if her name is spelled Arieth or Aries and why. So to argue with me would be moot point. If you try, there's an understood, "Whatever."

That you are apathetic is irrelevant to your statements having merit.

[The Ceej]

It was just a guess. Whatever. Try not to pick it apart like I knew what I was talking about.

I told you it was coming.

[Cookie]

Alright, so Aeris and Aerith? Well, it was Aeris in my original copy (PAL) and I usually keep it that way, but then when it came to Kingdom Hearts it was Aerith, which I can't change, but oh well. Although I was confused at first, I quickly realized that it does not matter. The fact that it's two letters different doesn't make a difference to the story, gameplay, or overall effect in any way. Also, if you don't like this extremely insignificant error, change it. If you don't like the characters' names, the option is given to you to change them. Take this opportunity. You think it's Aeris? Leave it. You think it's Aerith? Make the switch. Doesn't change a smurfing thing. (Apart from the name.)

[dragontamer]

Why are we arguing about a name?!?
My copy of PAL (British) has her default name as Aeris, which is okay, but i personally prefer Aerith .

this doesn't add much to the argument either way, and i don't care.
I'm supporting Aerith.:kaoyatta:

BTW, Why not post a poll on the subject; the default name for the dark haired girl in pink? Aeris or Aerith.

[Grazia]

Aerith it is. I dunno why people are even arguing this, its pointless & silly.

Accept that its Aerith, always has been Aerith, was always meant to be Aerith & move on.