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    Valkyrie Profile (after the Intro... I found... and the first dungeon *shudders*) is an absolutely beautiful game.

    They develop on most of the characters that are introduced (And they die at the start ;_;...).

    It was Playstation. things like Voice acting were new back then.

    Just play it a little more. Stay strong Chemical :3!

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    I'll give ya $20 for it right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemical View Post
    I like how some people forget that the purpose of a forum is to allow people to share their oppinions.

    Just because you don't like mine doesn't mean you have to be curt.
    You made a completely new thread, to bash a game that you only played 30 minutes of. How does that opinion count, really?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Omecle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemical View Post
    I like how some people forget that the purpose of a forum is to allow people to share their oppinions.

    Just because you don't like mine doesn't mean you have to be curt.
    You made a completely new thread, to bash a game that you only played 30 minutes of. How does that opinion count, really?
    Omecle really does have a point there Chemical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukasa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Omecle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemical View Post
    I like how some people forget that the purpose of a forum is to allow people to share their oppinions.

    Just because you don't like mine doesn't mean you have to be curt.
    You made a completely new thread, to bash a game that you only played 30 minutes of. How does that opinion count, really?
    Omecle really does have a point there Chemical.
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    My opinion matters, people are reacting positively and negatively and are creating a discourse in relation to my utter dissapoint and frustration with a game I simply could not get into or enjoy.

    A better question is why are you veering away from the topic to target me personally instead of challanging my oppinion with evidence that relates to the game and not semantics concerning what an oppinion is, if I deserve to form it or how long it takes me to form it.

    The frank matter of the situation is that I've expressed my discontent with a product and I've verbally challanged others to offer their personal feelings and oppinions of this game based on their own experiences.

    So the duration of the time I've speant with this game is irrelevent to the subject of the topic which is interestingly enough about the quality of Valkyrie Profile.

    So if you'd like to constructively comment on the game content in contrast or correspondance to my feelings then please feel compelled to offer that oppinion instead of targeting me personally.

    Boldly go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemical View Post
    A better question is why are you veering away from the topic to target me personally instead of challanging my oppinion with evidence that relates to the game and not semantics concerning what an oppinion is, if I deserve to form it or how long it takes me to form it.
    Because I felt like trolling.

    Very well then, I'll give my opinion on Valkyrie Profile.

    I believe you have not played enough to actually start enjoying the game. I would agree that the beginning does drag on a bit, but it really does become a fantastic game.

    As for the voice overs, what were you expecting? Next-gen quality? It was made for the PSX with a lot of limitations -- I was actually suprised that it had voice overs. (I don't know if they improved them or not for the PSP version)

    And to jump on the bandwagon: Give it to me.


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    it was a *GASP* pirated version.

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    I'm a bit disappointed. I would have expected that someone like you would play more than the first half-hour of a game before creating an opinion on it. Granted, tri-Ace is known for its relatively boring openings, but most of the things you're ranting about are just the standard "I didn't like the voice acting/characters/blah blah blah, etc." kind of thing. Except instead of playing the entire game, you played the first half-hour.

    The voice acting is actually very nice, considering that not many games of that time period had voice acting of that quantity or caliber. Have you ever played Star Ocean 2? Have you ever played Tales of Eternia? Have you ever played Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (I actually had a soft spot for this game's voice-acting, though)? These are just a handful of examples of the Playstation era's sub-par voice-acting.

    Regarding the story, well, you've barely played the first 30 minutes of the game. You don't have an opinion on the overall story, much less the more than thirty important playable and non-playable characters in the game.

    And really, have you tried out any of the Xenosaga games? *puts up anti-reflective Lunar shield* Great games, but it took me about an hour to reach the first save point. At least Valkyrie Profile gives you the option of saving about halfway through the opening sequence.

    Regarding my opinion of the game, I believe it has one of the most intriguing battle systems ever developed by tri-Ace (improved even further by the sequel). It's probably Sakuraba's best soundtrack too, with incredible quality. The A Ending sequence also offers one of the most rewarding RPG storylines I've every witnessed. So basically another testament to my tri-Ace fanboyishness.

    At any rate, if you're just going to miss out on playing this gem, would you mind giving me your copy? I need a new PlayStation version of the game ever since mine broke.

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    Yarrrrrr!



    And in response - I think the voice acting was certainly unique and I appreciate how they tried to bring gaming to the next level - I still don't particularily like it and if I ever tried to play the game again I'd probably have it muted.

    I'm just not sure if I want to sit through a 45 minute intro - I'm and extremely impatient person and when it comes to games I demand instant gratification through immediate control and action.

    It's why I like FPSes, WoW, Diablo II and other games that allow user interaction upon startup.

    There are games that had a huge plot and story line (for instance Xenogears) that allowed immediate play but also created a thick introduction tollerably distributed over play time. Perhaps it's just that VP was created for people with patience... I mean considering it's an unplayable intro for 45 minutes... that's longer than an average tv show and unless it's attractive to the player, they're just going to turn it off like they flick around during a ty 2 minute commercial.

    Ultimately my experience was comparable to that of sitting through a 30 minute infomercial on Bo-Flex.

    I mean really ... 30 minutes to say a Valkyrie is coming to earth to watch over a Head strong guy (with a cripple brother) who is stalked by a pissed off spoiled princess. And after 30 minutes that's all I got.

    Humans are fickle creatures and I firmly feel that if I can't be sold on an item after suffering through 30 minutes of hype then it's my right as a consumer to move on to something that can immediately offer gratification to me as a player.
    Last edited by Chemical; 06-29-2007 at 02:44 AM.

    Boldly go.

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    I can't think of a single game with voice acting where I actually enjoyed it. besides a FPS. RPGs and voice acting make me a sad panda.

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    Opinions are all well and good and everything, but 30 minutes of an RPG doesn't give you much to go on. I can't really put much stock into it. Play for another 9 1/2 and your opinion will have some weight.

    RPG intros are often boring. If I'd only played FF VI for 30 minutes, I never would have gotten to experience the Esper system. If I'd only played Tales of Symphonia for 30 minutes, I wouldn't have gotten to mess with any Exgem combos. If I'd only played Baten Kaitos for 30 minutes, I only would have been able to use like 3 cards at a time or something. 30 minutes is nothing for an RPG.

    (I haven't played Valkyrie Profile)

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