Similarities between my theories on FF8 and Chrono Cross

[Ramza Beoulve]

I know writers can make similar things on different games.
But there are too many coincidences to be random.
Look at the physical similarity between Garden and Chronopolis.It was one of the first things I noticed.

God... Homages!? I said more than enough, and it looks like that you haven't read what I said in the last part of my post. I get out of here, I don't care anymore.

[Tallulah]

I know writers can make similar things on different games.
But there are too many coincidences to be random.
Look at the physical similarity between Garden and Chronopolis.It was one of the first things I noticed.

God... Homages!? I said more than enough, and it looks like that you haven't read what I said in the last part of my post. I get out of here, I don't care anymore.

I was never here in the first place. Fe and 'theories' have a kind of mental block with me.

I cannot say a lot as I have never played Chrono Cross. But really it's like saying 'omg zidane knowz clowd cuz he recugnizez hiz sword in da weapun shop!!!!!111111one' i.e. games produced by the same company will have subtle references for the fans.

Jyust my $0.02. I know this will never stop the maness.

[Future Esthar]

They weren´t homages because they were too many.
Too many coincidences.
An homage happens ocasionally.

By the way,why can´t I discuss my theories.If I were just to share theories I would not choose a discussion forum.

[Dr. Acula]

FE, everybody IS discussing it. They're just sharing their opinions on your theories.

My opinion:

They're made by the same company, aren't they? Now I haven't played CC, but they probably ran out of ideas so they used some old ones, hence the similarities. It could have been deliberate. but who knows for sure? I think the coincidences are just that... coincidences.

[edczxcvbnm]

This thread will force a Jihad AND a Crusade against the FFVIII board. It is that stupid and sacrilegious against Chrono Cross.

[McLovin']

Unleash ya'lls fury!

[Grazia]

I know writers can make similar things on different games.
But there are too many coincidences to be random.

FFVII & CC were made at around the same time... Square have ALWAYS been known for putting jokey things in that their fans will pick up on and go "oh, that reminds me of...reh reh reh" Its something that they did for the fun of it during the creation process.


I think you're thinking WAAAAAY too hard about these games and their similarities, they're computer games & nothing more, so you dont need to come up with "theories" to explain or justify anything that is in either of them. They're similar because they were created by the same company and probably had a number of people who had/have worked on both the Chrono series and the FF series, working on them. Please stop trying to over-analyze them because at the end of the day, this is almost as annoying as the 1203958238129239049439 FFVII theories and the "OMG I REVIVIED AERIS" nonsense & you cant even back anything you say with some kind of evidence that proves your point of view.

[BG-57]

I found the Pupu/Starky comparison amusing, but I see little in the way of the comparisons between these games that couldn't also be made with other games.

And this thread reminds me of a quote by Louis Armstrong: "There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell them.”

[Goldenboko]

They weren´t homages because they were too many.
Too many coincidences.
An homage happens ocasionally.

By the way,why can´t I discuss my theories.If I were just to share theories I would not choose a discussion forum.

We are discussing. Not everyone is going to agree with you, face it, in fact since you're making theories most people aren't going to agree with you.

I find this to be stupid. Square makes homages all the time. Almost all of FFIX was homage, people accept that and don't go around saying that FFIX is the cross between all FF worlds.

The thing that really kills you're argument is the vagueness of you're comparisons. The only thing that really makes them closely linked is that both games have time travel incoperated.

In short FFVIII does not = CC

[Future Esthar]

Well,I am not saying CC is FF8.
It is a question of interpretation.
I can say then that the entire CC game is an homage to the entire FF8 game so the secret storyline also.That´s why I can use Chrono Cross to devise theories for FF8.
If it´s an homage its one more reason to do this.

[Goldenboko]

You're not getting my point. Video game theories are worthless 99% of the time you're just making things up to amuse yourself because the theories are not what the developers meant at all.
These are homages fun little things the developers threw in there to amuse themselves and to congratulate people who have played their other games. Making theories based off it is pointless, especially how I fail to see how many of these connections even work.

Homages aren't suppose to unveil some secret subplot to story.

[Future Esthar]

I don´t agree.
I agree that CC in an homage in the sense that it is a reconstruction of FF8 but going in a different path.
It´s like going from point A to point B.
You can go through different paths.
In CC they went to different paths to show things about FF8 which are there but weren´t obvious.
CC is to FF8 what Blue Shift is to Half Life.
It´s not like Serge represent Squall or something but he is to Squall what Barny is to Gordon Freeman.

[Goldenboko]

If thats what you've been trying to say then I disagree more fiercely then before. CC is the sequel to Chrono Trigger. Just by knowing facts about the game you can see how it doesn't add up at all.

Ultimecia is a crazed loon seeking power where Schala is a young women seeking refrence from her mother, who was far more like Ultimecia then she ever was.
Also the ideas of time travel are completely different. If FFVIII and CC where just different ways of getting from point A to point B then they laws of nature should be the same, and they aren't. In FFVIII time travel cannot be done without some ildefined power and not even that can bring bodies back in time, only minds (whatever Ellone had I don't quite remember), but in CT (I'm going to say CT because I know more about it, and CC being its sequel has the same game laws) time travel can be done by anyone who has the proper piece of technology.

[Future Esthar]

I would like to discuss this things at my other thread because it involves theories.
This thread is for simple similarities which don´t require theories.
These include Chronopolis/Balamb Garden,time travel,beach at soutwest tip,etc...
I will make an exception.
We time travel on FF8 more than what we think.
Pretty much every vehicle on FF8 is a time travelling machine.
Did you realize there are two kinds of trains at Galbadia?
An old one and a new one.The old ones are continental and the new ones are intercontinental.
The old ones couldn´t cross the continents because they can´t time travel.Would they try to do so they would be stuck at an holographic wall.
Dr Odine possessed some shumies which evolved through time.
The different evolutions of these shumies on different eras created time travelling vehicles on their eras.
People get used to the vehicles without realizing they were surrounded by an holographic wall.
Since the vehicles time travel automatically when they cross the walls and these ones show illusions of what is supposed to be on the other side(but they show images of the destined era) ,Odine´s plan worked too well.
People grow thinking the world was normal.


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[Goldenboko]

Did you realize there are two kinds of trains at Galbadia?
An old one and a new one.The old ones are continental and the new ones are intercontinental.
The old ones couldn´t cross the continents because they can´t time travel.Would they try to do so they would be stuck at an holographic wall.

I need some kind of proof that this is the reason why because that seems completely made up. How about a much simpler explaination, old trains are older, and much more unreliable, so they travel continentally so if it breaks down all of the passengers don't die.