Very nice. So in the end, we all agree that FFVII brought new ideas, or as you all so grudgingly admit "vastly improved ideas" to the table. Which is the deffinition of revolutionary, which I posted earlier. Final Fantasy X also revolutionized the series as being the first on PS2 and so will XIII for being the first on PS3. Thats new. Its a new system, new power, things that couldnt be done before can now be possible with new hardware. You can put it all on the Playstation, but in the end, people play FFVII ON the Playstation. The Playstation was just a tool used to help create this game.

Like I said, my point was proven. It was revolutionary, and you all admit it.