Question on the ending

[Bolivar]

Disclamer: If you can't figure out, this thread in itself is a spoiler.






So Delita stabs Ovelia at the end? WTF??? Dude builds a kingdom for her then kills her? He's one sick dude. One hell of a character.

I guess it shows that even though he became king (as they let you know in the beginning), in the end he was still left with nothing, after all his plotting and scheming. I guess that's why he asks Ramza "What did you get?" ?

Anyway, great game, and I'm glad I finally beat it (My 4th time through it i think). Anyone's welcome to share thoughts on the ending or on the game in general.

[Jowy]

Ovelia stabs him first and doesn't penetrate his armor.

More anti-heroes need to be like Delita.

[Bolivar]

Ovelia stabs him first and doesn't penetrate his armor.

More anti-heroes need to be like Delita.

oh ok. that makes more sense.

[dodhungry]

Although I enjoy playing this game, I do not like how it ends. I guess thats why I have only beat the game once.

[Lynx]

one of the many reasons delita is one of the coolest characters in all of FF.

he saw how easily disposed low class people were like his sister. so his revenge is to become king himself and kill anyone standing in his way. all though you can tell he really doesnt want to kill his best friend Ramza despite what he may say. when ovelia betrayed him for whatever reason she had (that was the part i didnt understand) without hesitation he did what had to be done.

[BG-57]

She tries to kill him, because she's just found out how he's been using her to get into a position of power. That she is upset is understandable. Whether he survives isn't shown, but it's implied since he presided over a long, prosperous reign.

Delita is the perfect illustration of a character that gains the world but loses his soul. The only person left who understands him has disappeared into exile. I found his motives understandable but the deaths of innocents by his schemes does not justify them.

[Roogle]

The ending is slightly ambiguous.

I expect that the port, Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War, on the Playstation Portable will divulge a little more of what happened on that day.

My interpretation echoes others. I felt that Ovelia found out that she was only a political puppet to Delita - though, Delita may have really loved her - and had a very realistic reaction to attempt to kill Delita. Delita is a warrior and disarms her after she attacks him and she realizes her intent, and, by instinct, strikes her back. This would probably prove fatal to an untrained individual like Ovelia.

[Jowy]

Man, you're one active poster, Roogle! Keep it up!

[Proxy]

I'd like to know what he meant when he said "What did you get?" It's a good thought that he still has nothing after everything he's gone through, but I think it's more than that.
I thought the game was beautful, and Delita is probably the greatest Final Fantasy character ever thought up. Dare I say better than Sephy?

[Bolivar]

I'd like to know what he meant when he said "What did you get?" It's a good thought that he still has nothing after everything he's gone through, but I think it's more than that.
I thought the game was beautful, and Delita is probably the greatest Final Fantasy character ever thought up. Dare I say better than Sephy?

sure, why not?

to answer your question, I think he asks that because he himself, like everyone else in the game, still doesn't understand the basics of why Ramza fights. After all their trials, he's king, but his queen's dead, he has no friends, in essence, he has a kingdom but nothing that makes it worth having.

He asks what Ramza got out of the whole ordeal. But that's the thing. Ramza didn't do it to get anything. He did it because it was the right thing to do, not for himself, and Delita still doesn't understand that basic concept. Everyone in this game was using other people for personal advantage, Ramza's really the only one fighting for 'Justice'.

[Ziekfried]

Delita became worse than Dycedarg and Vormav. What he sought to overcome he turned into. And while it wasn't shown I'd like to think that the rest of the crew survived with Ramza, it is highly likely that they did. Maybe Ramza hooked up with Rafa(she's a hottie) or maybe Agrias or Meliadoul, Mustadio traveled the world discovering new machines, Cid went off to be cool somewhere else and stuff like that. In any case it can be said tha Ramza finally got the freedom he wanted from the obligations of knighthood, the name Beoulve, and the Church of Glabados.

[Elpizo]

It's weird. I saw that part of the ending accidentaly on Youtube, and suddenly I lost all interest in finishing FFT. Don't know why. Maybe it was one murder too much. Matsuno really slaughtered off everybody in FFT, except for Delita. There's no goodguy that really has a happy ending (I mean, for all we know, Ramza's party is in heaven). While it is original and cool in some way, I still didn't like it. One person too much who we saw dying, I guess.

I know I should finish it, and I loved what I've played so far (I'm just at the beginning of chapter 4). It's only one more chapter, and yet... The ending bugs me too much. But maybe if I play through Chapter 4, I'll understand it better?

[BG-57]

The fate of Ramza's followers in uncertain, so it's legitimate to assume that they survived and went underground like Ramza and Alma. I always hoped that he hooked up with Meliadoul; he deserves some happiness after all he went through.

It's a sad ending, but it's still a game worth playing.

[VeloZer0]

The FFT ending is quite possibly my favorite ending of any game/movie/book. I remember the first time I beat it I just sat there for a few minutes in stunned silence thinking ''wow, I can't believe they did that'. It is open enough for you to believe that they lived or died. I like endings that leave it open enough to wonder, but keep the choices to two or three outcomes so that each is well developed and plausable. (I feel the ending where they all die is the far superior one). Having everyone live happily ever after would just ruin the entire tone of the game up until that point.

Likewise we have another big question with the whole Delitia/Ovelia situation. Though many people see this as a confirmation that Delitia has become a 'bad guy' I see it in a far different manner. Delitia and Ramza are both heroes, and the game shows just what you get for being a hero.
Ramza saved Ivalice from Lucavi, and in turn was ostracized from society and ultimately ended up dying in a selfless struggle to save the world.
Delitia ultimately sold his soul to become king and be in a position to save Ivalice from itself, and in return lost himself and anyone he could ever call a loved one/friend. He saved Ivalice but ultimately lost everything himself.
Both are tragic heroes in my eyes, which is what makes the story so powerful.

[Gilthanes]

Ramza saved Ivalice from Lucavi, and in turn was ostracized from society and ultimately ended up dying in a selfless struggle to save the world.

He didnt die, unless you got a game over

It was a selfless struggle and he got no thanks for doing it all. But he did fake his death and go into exile with Alma. I imagine they (and whatever companions you still had) left that area of Ivalice and just lived a regular life

As far as Delita goes, from what I understand his reign was a good one... Despite his questionable rise to power (lets face it, most of it was down right dirty). He manipulated alot, but had he not been the one to stand up at the end and take control, someone worse (or nobody at all, total anarchy) would have. Sometimes the ends justifies the means, people forget all the messed up stuff that was happening whether or not Delita took advantage of the situation. Delita wasnt manipulating the war, just the people who were.

Ramza took care of the evil monsters and all that, but Delita took care of the area politically. They were both important in bringing about a happy ending, Ramza just got the short end of the stick on the fame. Had Delita not actually thought Ramza was dead, I bet he would have tried to clear his name (I wonder why Ramza didnt let Delita know)