Wow, this thread has devolved into a X vs. XII argument and neither Renmiri or I was responsible... Check the skies children! The world is coming to an end!

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I wanted to say, the moogles in FF XII shouldn't be that surprising. They use the same design as FFTA's moogles (Logical, they are drawn by the same artist, aren't they?). So FF XII's moogles should be nothing new or shocking.

Further, there's no point in me trying to say something positive about XII, you won't listen anyway. You're too spoilt by X.

Right now I'm playing X for the first time, after I finished XII, and can you please tell me how this game got so many fans? After the magnificent IX (and XII) I didn't expect something that... tries to make me stop playing by throwing all kinds of stuff at me that makes me swallow hard and feel a bit sick...

Ah well, each to his own. Some of your complaints make absolutely no sense to me but I won't try to understand. I feel that it's not worth it. Try to stop thinking that every FF has to be like X to be a FF, maybe then you'll like XII. I'll go as far as saying that FF X feels the least FF-ish to me.

Don't think I had no problems with XII, there were some problems, but for me the fantastic Final Boss and "Battle for Freedom" more than made up for all of my little problems with XII.
Lord I understand this too well. I still don't understand how X got such a rabid fanbase. :rolleyes2 And yes X is pretty bad about forcing things down your throat. It's the worse offender in the FF series when it comes to holding your hand and being linear.

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Quote Originally Posted by Elpizo View Post
Right now I'm playing X for the first time, after I finished XII, and can you please tell me how this game got so many fans?
It's one of those "you had to be there" things. I got X (and Playstation2) when it first came out, and it's hard for me not to have fond memories of it.

Now i'm going to get back to chrono trigger and try to figure out what's so special about it...
Speak for yourself I got X when it came out and found it too be really boring and disappointing. My feelings only grew stronger when I played through it a second time. I still feel it's the low point of the series and pray that no future FF tries to be like it.

As for CT... yeah, the game is far more impressive if you played it when it came out. It was mind blowing at the time. But I still feel the games overall charm holds up to today.

Back on topic... Outside of the fanboy/girl squabbling Rikku. XII is very different in storytelling and structure. Some like it, some don't. I personally felt Lady Ashe's struggle and the theme of freedom were beautifully told and it really connected with my personal feelings about the subjects. The game's realism with politics and dropping grandiose ideologies like "saving the world" felt refreshing after so many years of playing the genre. Granted I don't feel ever RPG should be like XII, but I felt it was a nice breather after playing through so many similiar games.

Hopefully XIII will learn from XII's strengths.