Necron?

[Big D]

And i still want to know why some people say Necron retreats, after being defeated. It seemed to me that he was... blowing up, exploding, being completely and utterly destroyed.

As he's diminishing, he says that he'll never truly disappear as long as there is death and doubt in the world. Words to that effect, anyway. I figure Necron's like the counterbalance to the Crystal. The Crystal is the source of all life and spiritual energy, while Necron is the source of death and ending.

I haven't completed FFIX in a while, so please correct me if I'm wrong... but after Necron is defeated, there's an FMV of his remains rising above the Tree and exploding, right? That explosion, combined with Kuja's Ultima and related antics, seem to be what killed off the Tree more than anything else.

I still don't think Necron was directly related to the Tree in any way. However, since the Tree was inextricably and powerfully tied to the cycles of life and death for Terra and Gaia, it seems logical that the events surrounding the Tree (like Kuja's attempt to destroy the Crystal) would draw Necron's attention.

[Bart's Friend Milhouse]

Thats pretty deep

The last time I played this game I actually (for once) took into account everything to do with the main plot including all the technical bits and I still don't have the capability to explain anything. I'm still not aware that the Tree had any major purpose after the Mist disappeared

[The Unknown Guru]

Thats pretty deep

The last time I played this game I actually (for once) took into account everything to do with the main plot including all the technical bits and I still don't have the capability to explain anything. I'm still not aware that the Tree had any major purpose after the Mist disappeared

In Disc 4, the Mist reappears. The tree is going to be the catalyst for Terra's assimilation of Gaia.

As he's diminishing, he says that he'll never truly disappear as long as there is death and doubt in the world. Words to that effect, anyway. I figure Necron's like the counterbalance to the Crystal. The Crystal is the source of all life and spiritual energy, while Necron is the source of death and ending.

I haven't completed FFIX in a while, so please correct me if I'm wrong... but after Necron is defeated, there's an FMV of his remains rising above the Tree and exploding, right? That explosion, combined with Kuja's Ultima and related antics, seem to be what killed off the Tree more than anything else.

It's the portal to Memoria that blows up, but it pretty much has the same effect.

Necron being the "bizarro crystal" actually would make a lot of sense, but some of his lines imply that he is actually trying to help life, though. He says that in a world of nothing, there is no fear and that this is what all life desires.

[Big D]

Necron being the "bizarro crystal" actually would make a lot of sense, but some of his lines imply that he is actually trying to help life, though. He says that in a world of nothing, there is no fear and that this is what all life desires.

I don't see Necron as inherently "evil", so I'd agree with you there. He seemed to believe genuinely that life was a self-defeating, self-terrorising process that led only to death anyway. If he is indeed the manifestation of ultimate lifelessness, then it'd be logical for him to think the universe would be better off without life.

[Great Sephiroth]

I cannot defeat Necron, I'm still weak I think... but I'm playing FFIX again and I will be more stronger than before. Anyway this is a splendid relationship between Necron and Iifa Tree if it is. I'm very excited this..Gosh, what a deep game more than seems...

[Jimsour]

I havent played the game in years but I do agree with the idea that he was alluded in several parts of the game because I remember thinking "what is he on about?".

However, its possible no one knew enough about Necron to say what it is nevermind who it is, only knowing its a powerful force. Its clear only a few knew of its existance and it might just be an excuse for bad storytelling. Whether or not it is, I dont think it matters much, after the "last battle" before Necron I didnt feel like I done anything great and it wasnt that hard at all, whereas Necron was a whole other (welcome) story in difficulty.

The idea that its neither good or evil, just existing, reminds me of the very last battle in FFX, only we know about that fella for a pretty long time and to kill him is the actual goal, he doesnt just appear. But neither where good or evil, they just existed for a purpose.

[Great Sephiroth]

I'm totally agrre...When I saw the Necron I said "what the heck is that?" because, in early times in game you cannot hear his name..No one spells "Necron" no one time!! So, he is appeared suddenly and they(I mean square) said "This is your last boss in FFIX"...I was disappointing very much. Because, it is ridicuolusly strong, and I didn't hear his name after all!
In FFVII, we saw Sephiroth again and again, the fearful and insane ex-SOLDIER...So it is very exciting to play final boss...
In FFVIII, we heard about ultimecia and her time compression again and again and when I was in disc 4, I saw Ultimecia Castle and said "wow, what a castle for last episode!" and its very splendid to play and beat her...
In FFX, peoples babbling about Yu Yevon again and again (it was a pretty disappointment too, because, Yevon was telling us like a perfect exictence and I imagined that Yevon was pretty big and gorgeous...But he was an itsy-bitsy spider after all)...
In FFXII we saw and heard about Vayne Solidor and his evil genius.
BUT, in FFIX, Necron was comin like an unwanted guest...

[Ouch!]

As was mentioned previously in this thread (I don't remember by whom and can't be bothered to sift through again), the most blatant allusion to Necron's existence came from Doctor Tot when he explained that the summoners feared a power and sealed it.

I never put together any sort of direct connection the Iifa Tree, but I do agree with Big D's assessment that Necron was the antithesis of the crystal. That explanation always satisfied me, and I didn't feel a need to explore any more possible explanations for Necron's presence at the end of the game.

As far as the destruction of the Iifa Tree, I was under the impression that some of that was Kuja's doing. He did say he manipulated the Tree long enough for Zidane and friends to make their escape. Again, it's not something I really felt important enough to search for a deeper explanation.

[f f freak]

I've just remembered something in the game. When you go to the Iifa Tree the first time Eiko says something along the lines of "The summoners sealed something powerful here." I'm not sure whether she meant Leviathan or perhaps was alluding to Necron. I can't remember exactly what she said though as I haven't played in ages.

[Great Sephiroth]

But anything that they said about Necron they didn't spell Necron's name anytime, this is obvious...

[Goldenboko]

But anything that they said about Necron they didn't spell Necron's name anytime, this is obvious...

Foreshadowing. Its means to give hints to future events. To me it would be odd if ANY of the characters knew Necron's name because how would they know, Necron has never been seen by any living human eyes at the time. What matters is theres many points where they tend to hint toward Necron...

The problem now comes whether you believe Squall of SeeD or the idea that Necron is the antitheses of the Crystal.

[Great Sephiroth]

But anything that they said about Necron they didn't spell Necron's name anytime, this is obvious...

Foreshadowing. Its means to give hints to future events. To me it would be odd if ANY of the characters knew Necron's name because how would they know, Necron has never been seen by any living human eyes at the time. What matters is theres many points where they tend to hint toward Necron...

The problem now comes whether you believe Squall of SeeD or the idea that Necron is the antitheses of the Crystal.

It was a good answer...But how they saw Necron even it has never been seen by any living human eyes?? Is Kuja's last magic, Ultima really killed them all? Sorry but please do not give any spoilers because I didn't beat the game, I stuck with Necron, the last boss...

[Goldenboko]

But anything that they said about Necron they didn't spell Necron's name anytime, this is obvious...

Foreshadowing. Its means to give hints to future events. To me it would be odd if ANY of the characters knew Necron's name because how would they know, Necron has never been seen by any living human eyes at the time. What matters is theres many points where they tend to hint toward Necron...

The problem now comes whether you believe Squall of SeeD or the idea that Necron is the antitheses of the Crystal.

It was a good answer...But how they saw Necron even it has never been seen by any living human eyes?? Is Kuja's last magic, Ultima really killed them all? Sorry but please do not give any spoilers because I didn't beat the game, I stuck with Necron, the last boss...

There's two different main theories.

Squall of SeeD's states Necron is the main core of the Iifa Tree. I'm most convinced by this one.
If you notice Garland states The only way to live in a world without fear is to live in a world where everything is dead. That is shockingly similar to what Necron states he must send everything to the Zero world (a world where there is no life). This seems to say their intentions we're the same making it highly possible Garland DID create Necron.
Now Garland states the main function of the core unit of the Iifa tree is to disrupt the Cycle of Souls occurring in Gaia. He says when you die, your soul returns to the land so life may continue, and the main unit is stopping this.
This would explain why when the characters are defeated they see Necron. Because Kuja really did kill them, and now they are up against the unit disrupting the cycle of souls. What makes this more convincing is the fact the location they are sent to (the Hill of despair) has the moaning of souls in the background.

The other theory is far less convincing to me. It states that Necron is either the Opposite of the Crystal and appears b/c the Crystal is destroyed -or- that Necron is the powerful figure that was sealed in the Crystal by the ancient Summoners, and escaped because this Crystal was destroyed.

I don't believe this theory because Necron says "I exist for one purpose... To return everything back to
the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life. In
a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world that all
life desires." Necron says "I need to destory the Crystal to stop life", which clearly contradicts this second theory.

[Great Sephiroth]

But anything that they said about Necron they didn't spell Necron's name anytime, this is obvious...

Foreshadowing. Its means to give hints to future events. To me it would be odd if ANY of the characters knew Necron's name because how would they know, Necron has never been seen by any living human eyes at the time. What matters is theres many points where they tend to hint toward Necron...

The problem now comes whether you believe Squall of SeeD or the idea that Necron is the antitheses of the Crystal.

It was a good answer...But how they saw Necron even it has never been seen by any living human eyes?? Is Kuja's last magic, Ultima really killed them all? Sorry but please do not give any spoilers because I didn't beat the game, I stuck with Necron, the last boss...

There's two different main theories.

Squall of SeeD's states Necron is the main core of the Iifa Tree. I'm most convinced by this one.
If you notice Garland states The only way to live in a world without fear is to live in a world where everything is dead. That is shockingly similar to what Necron states he must send everything to the Zero world (a world where there is no life). This seems to say their intentions we're the same making it highly possible Garland DID create Necron.
Now Garland states the main function of the core unit of the Iifa tree is to disrupt the Cycle of Souls occurring in Gaia. He says when you die, your soul returns to the land so life may continue, and the main unit is stopping this.
This would explain why when the characters are defeated they see Necron. Because Kuja really did kill them, and now they are up against the unit disrupting the cycle of souls. What makes this more convincing is the fact the location they are sent to (the Hill of despair) has the moaning of souls in the background.

The other theory is far less convincing to me. It states that Necron is either the Opposite of the Crystal and appears b/c the Crystal is destroyed -or- that Necron is the powerful figure that was sealed in the Crystal by the ancient Summoners, and escaped because this Crystal was destroyed.

I don't believe this theory because Necron says "I exist for one purpose... To return everything back to
the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life. In
a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world that all
life desires." Necron says "I need to destory the Crystal to stop life", which clearly contradicts this second theory.

Okay, you explain it very well, perfectly. But i dont understand one thing: Why Necron wants to return everything to Zero World, why it wants to stop life???

[jammi567]

Maybe because he followed Kuja around, and believed that Kuja represented what life wanted?