Necron?

[Elpizo]

I just interpreted NeoExDeath as another form of ExDeath, now with a slightly less poorly thought out cliché name than before.

I think it's pretty clear NeoExDeath was entirely different entity than ExDeath. ExDeath wanted power of the Void, but he certainly never wanted himself to disappear. NeoExDeath is different.

"I am NeoExDeath. All memories... dimensions... existence... All that shall be returned to nothing. Then I too can disappear... Forever!!!"

Doesn't sound like ExDeath at all to me. It's more like the Void absorbed ExDeath and took his power to create a body for itself. That's what I believe anyway.

[Big D]

NeoExDeath was a combination of ExDeath and either Enuo or the Void itself, right?

[The Ceej]

I was expecting spoilers from Final Fantasy IX. Whatever. It's the nature of a Necron thread. Yeah. I didn't expect him either.

But NeoExDeath? I might as well not even finish Final Fantasy V now. It's been ruined for me. But yeah. I will anyway. Why? Because I can.

[Lawr]

Squall of SeeD's plot analysises aren't canon.

I laughed a lot.

[The Crystal]

I think it wouldn't have felt right if they just had let it end with Trance Kuja and it wouldn't feel right either if Kuja transformed again. So I was kinda glad Necron appeared (though I was spoiled, I knew he would appear).

It's not just that "it wouldn't have felt right", but that "it wouln't make any sense". Before the fight against Super Trance Kuja, he said that the process of assimilation between Gaia and Terra already started, and he couldn't do anything to stop it, even if he tried. Meaning that killing him would NOT stop the process. It didn't depend of him anymore, but the tree itself(that was causing the assimilation).
This is why we fight Necron. To kill the tree and save Gaia.

And seriously... Necron's theme is a remix of the Iifa Tree's theme, the tree dies after you kill him, he change between the colors(blue and red) of the two planets the tree is connected with, etc.
Stating that Necron don't have any connection with the tree, is simply ridiculous.

I just interpreted NeoExDeath as another form of ExDeath, now with a slightly less poorly thought out cliché name than before.

His original name is Exodus.

[Bolivar]

I personally don't think Necron has any connection with the Iifa tree. When I first beat the game, like alot of other people, i thought he was random, came out of nowhere and was not needed.

But Necron's appearance makes perfect sense if you consider FFIX to be a culmination/tribute of all FF's in the truest sense of the term. In all of the even numbered FF's, something like this happens. in I the forces of theh planet are disappearing. In III and V, the void attempts to consume the world and reduce it into nothingness. in VII, the reaction to meteor initially tries to wipe everything out of existence. in VI the antagonist decides to do just that at the end and in X, which was in production at this time, one of the villains also wants to reduce everything to nothingness.

Also, in many of the games the "final boss" is replaced with a different final boss without much bearing on the story. Chaos, the Devil, Cloud of Darkness, Zeromus, Neo-XDeath.

Having beaten the other FF's Necron makes perfect sense to me.

[ReloadPsi]

I just interpreted NeoExDeath as another form of ExDeath, now with a slightly less poorly thought out cliché name than before.

His original name is Exodus.

Sort of. ExDeath, written in Japanese kana, romanises back as "e-ku-su-de-su".

[Big D]

But NeoExDeath? I might as well not even finish Final Fantasy V now. It's been ruined for me. But yeah. I will anyway. Why? Because I can.

I'd hardly say that's ruined FFV's ending. All you've really learned is something that you likely knew already - that the final boss, the main villain of FFV, transforms into an even bigger, badder version of himself after you fight him. It's something of a recurring theme in the series

FFV's ending is actually pretty fantastic, I can't recommend it highly enough. The game itself gets a few mixed reviews, but it's hard to fault its conclusion.

[Zeromus_X]

I just interpreted NeoExDeath as another form of ExDeath, now with a slightly less poorly thought out cliché name than before.

His original name is Exodus.

Sort of. ExDeath, written in Japanese kana, romanises back as "e-ku-su-de-su".

Yeah. And his name on the sound test is 'X-Death', so I'd say Exdeath is just fine.

I always thought that Neo Exdeath was just Exdeath being consumed and combining with the Void to become a weird juxtoposition of random skeletons and women.

[Lawr]

become a weird juxtAposition of random skeletons and women.

I laughed a lot, even more.

I'm happy you think my spelling mistakes are funny, but I don't think it's something that's really necessary to share in this thread. Thanks! ~ Zeromus

[The Unknown Guru]

I'm positive Necron has no connection with the Tree. Just assuming it rethought its entire reason to exist after Garland died sounds a lot like making excuses to me.

I think he's some ancient being that has always held his radical beliefs, including the belief that life itself wants to be erased. When Kuja tries to destroy the Crystal, Necron believes that his views are confirmed and tries to blow it all up. Zidane and friends fight him and show enough strength to convince Necron that life isn't ready to be erased yet. He retreats back to wherever he was before, waiting until life wants to be destroyed.

[Rostum]

Stating that Necron don't have any connection with the tree, is simply ridiculous.

Perhaps if you are referring to Necron as being tied to all forms of life due to playing a fairly big role in relation to the crystal, then yeah. But I don't see any way that he is directly connected to the Iifa Tree.

It was stated in the game that the Iifa Tree's sole purpose was to transfer souls from Gaia to Terra. As well as it is said that Necron has one purpose, and that is to bring the universe back to the Zero world (before creation).

I think the whole argument about 'beating Necron, then the Iifa Tree dies, so they must be the same!' is just weak. There are other explanations for that (such as, you know... Kuja destroying pretty much all of Terra, or the fact that Garland and the Genomes' are unable to monitor and help the flow of souls from one world to the other).

[The Crystal]

I think the whole argument about 'beating Necron, then the Iifa Tree dies, so they must be the same!' is just weak.

This is not the ONLY argument you know. Read again the post you quoted.

There are other explanations for that (such as, you know... Kuja destroying pretty much all of Terra,

Then the tree would have died instantly after this.

or the fact that Garland and the Genomes' are unable to monitor and help the flow of souls from one world to the other).

In the Crystal World, Kuja says that the process of assimilation between Gaia and Terra already started(by the tree). It don't need Garland or the Genomes to help it.



And i still want to know why some people say Necron retreats, after being defeated. It seemed to me that he was... blowing up, exploding, being completely and utterly destroyed.

[Zeromus_X]

It might have to do with him saying something along the lines of "I will always exist...so long as there is life and death" and then appearing to vanish into a dimensional rift after the party defeats him. I'm sure that being nucleified by the party may've injured him, of course, but he never actually dissolved into nothingness like all of the other final bosses.

Edit: Here it is, from Shotgunnova's Game Script:

Necron: "This is not the end. I am eternal... ...as long as there is
life and death..."

[Rostum]

I still don't see any kind of strong argument that the Iifa Tree is Necron.