This game is a joke

[Tavrobel]

i haeted teh gaem so hard it is bad and smelly and is full of poo lol tidus sux and wakka is gaey bc rikku is megasex hawtness omg u r all n00bs omg yuna haz bad actrez bc the onle gema i ply is ffix i liek jesus and wen ppl maek funs of jesus they makez fun of em 2 and i dun liek tht and teh gameply wtf was they thinkin they uses teh O button bc that was wht it was in ff7 lmaolmao roflcoptar i thnk that luv is overrate since im a pretten teknologe is BAD stuff dont u get it lolololoolololl and snce i cen typ on teh intarnetz i can say that mai opinion is bettar than urs ne1 agre? i does w/ rantz and shizz but rly 4 realz ppl i jus didnt get the sotry s i has to thinks for once in mai lyfe ff8 sux 2 any1z get whats i sayin i do gyme to easy 4 me and othr gaemz is bettar u ALL DONT KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON LOLOLOLOL FFX

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[LunarWeaver]

Sir Taffy's replies always make me complete inside.

[Momiji]

To be honest, I totally agree with Godhand here. When compared to other Final Fantasies (X-2 aside) X is horrible! It's basically where FF goes from being a unique series to being like every other RPG-- predictable, clichéd, and so, so very simple. Sure, XII was different, but X and X-2 were horribly disappointing.

[The Unknown Guru]

The fact there were still random encounters in the game is also a testament to how horrible it is – any developer worth their salt would recognise it's an archaic system from a time when memory constraints stopped you from placing enemies on the overworld map.

THAT pisses me off. Also, I'm fine with flaming the game as long as you do not insult people who you don't even know... which you did. Congrats for being ignorant!

[Siegfried]

According to your logic, every FF ever made is racist in some way...

[Slothy]

Famitsu's opinion isn't work jack these days; they are in the hands of the fans who buy their magazine and have admitted such. That's why their top 100 games have nothing but RPGs, and that's why they put X at the top. Not because these games are good, but because people like you are the only people who buy their magazine and would stop when they pointed out to you that your favourite game sucks.


Re-read my post, guys, you plainly failed to understand it on the first run through (probably because you are seething with NERD RAGE over this affront to your precious game). Everything that's in there is correct.

It wasn't Famitsu's opinion; it was the readers. Also, FFX is far from my favourite game, and my post was far from laced with nerd rage as you put it. In fact, I quite calmly explained my take on things. Something I wish I could say about you. And what you said isn't necessarily correct. It's your opinion, which by definition isn't irrefutable. It's how you feel, however when it comes to complaining that characters like Tidus are whiny, or the Wakka is a racist, I say that these not only didn't bother me, but changed as the characters grew over the course of the game.

Tidus started out a little whiny (for about five minutes to be honest. There are few times he complains about anything besides the fact that Yuna is expected to die to save the world. A valid complaint if you ask me), but by the end of the game he had matured as a character and really grew into the role of a hero willing to die to save the world and the people he cared about. His growth was natural and logical as he was affected by the events around him.

Wakka also started out not liking the Al Bhed, because they heavily utilized Machina which went against his religion, and which he saw as being part of the reason Sin exists. I loved Wakka's character because I saw him as something of a reflection of a great many people today who blindly follow their faith without asking why they hate a group of people or believe something that they take on faith, but which can either make no sense, or be flat out wrong. By the end of the game, he came to realize that the Al Bhed weren't bad people, and that Machina had nothing to do with Sin's existance. He realized he was wrong in his initial biggotry and ignorance.

I wish all games had character development this well handled. You didn't like it, and that's fine. But insulting those who do or ranting and raving about your opinion as though it were the only way of viewing the game will not win you any friends around here. This game had a lot of great qualities; if they weren't to your taste then fine, but stop trying to ram your opinions down our throats.

[Odaisé Gaelach]

I enjoyed it.

[PuPu]

Most of what you have written are just bad rants and jokes, especially with the characters. The people here are most likely right; you probably didn't even play through the whole game and/or you are an ignorant moron. Some of your facts weren't even correct.

I want to stop for a moment and have you all appreciate that last sentence: at no point during the game is Sin ever shown as being capable of moving onto the land to wreck .

Sin was able to fly and the only way the FFX party could attack him was by flying on the Airship. This was near the end of the game, if you even got that far.

I want to close by talking about the gameplay. Well, more specifically, the lack of it. There is no challenge or intelligent thought involved in playing the game. If you play through every storyline battle and a decent amount of your random encounters, it is impossible to die. This is because you can't be bad at mashing X.

There are different enemy types which certain characters have a disadvantage over (e.g. Auron vs. A flying enemy). By the time you mashed X to kill the foe, you would have most likely been dead. If you were able to mash your way through every battle and every boss with X, that probably means that you were overleveled, especially Seymour Flux. If this is true, you wouldn't have gotten past Evrae on a normal playthrough.

The fact there were still random encounters in the game is also a testament to how horrible it is – any developer worth their salt would recognise it's an archaic system from a time when memory constraints stopped you from placing enemies on the overworld map.

Do you even know when FFX was released?

And finally, nobody's saying you can't dislike the game, but don't insult the people who actually like it. You say that you are trying to debate here, but a person only insults his or her opponent in a debate when he/she realizes that nothing he or she says will help support his or her argument. In fact, almost nothing you said actually proves FFX is a bad game. They were just pointless rants and bad jokes to make yourself look ignorant. You should go do like what you said:

Please take your leave if you cannot meaningfully contribute to this conversation.

[Rostum]

To be honest, I totally agree with Godhand here. When compared to other Final Fantasies (X-2 aside) X is horrible! It's basically where FF goes from being a unique series to being like every other RPG-- predictable, clichéd, and so, so very simple. Sure, XII was different, but X and X-2 were horribly disappointing.

Every Final Fantasy has a very simple story line, what are you talking about?

[Godhand]

pwned the thread

Contentless reply. On other boards, people get banned for this. Since you obviously aren't, you must be some kind of fat eCelebrity here or something to get away with it.

Dude, you need to play FFX-2. If you hate this game, you will go nuclear at how awful FFX-2 is.

X-2 failed so hard it looped back to win.

Tidus started out a little whiny (for about five minutes to be honest. There are few times he complains about anything besides the fact that Yuna is expected to die to save the world. A valid complaint if you ask me), but by the end of the game he had matured as a character and really grew into the role of a hero willing to die to save the world and the people he cared about. His growth was natural and logical as he was affected by the events around him.

I hope you felt dirty after dropping that massive load onto the interbutts. Tidus does not develop at all. He's still the whiny spoiled child he at the end as he was at the start of the game, the only difference is the volume of cutscene (not gameplay, we already clarified there basically is none) hours is massive enough to make people like you learn to love him. Anyone who thinks he's "mature" obviously has never taken the time to learn the meaning of the word.

I'd comment on more, but reading your comments are painful seeing as you can't make any reaction toward the game thats really worth reading.

I am sorry that I am calling it how it is rather than how you have deluded yourself into thinking it is or want it to be.

To deal with one of yr obvious mistakes though. Wakka to begin with is prejudiced against Al Bhed. Whether cos he's racist or against machina doesn't matter, its wrong. But he learns during the journey that Al Bhed aren't the real enemy, and that its Yevon that's corrupt and hypocritical. He even apologises to Cid for his previous ignorance. So he's not just a stupid "redneck", is he?

Right. The same way a KKK guy "apologises" to Al Sharpton. Nobody magically unlearns prejudice - it sticks with you until you die - and if you want to argue that Wakka somehow did, you immediately concede that he is an unrealistic character as well as just a badly written character and a filthy scumbag racist.

Do you even know when FFX was released?

Random battles are a product of hardware limitations that do not exist on the Playstation 2. Regardless of release date, it is a sign of incredible laziness or incompetence on Square's part that they continue to implement them.

[Momiji]

To be honest, I totally agree with Godhand here. When compared to other Final Fantasies (X-2 aside) X is horrible! It's basically where FF goes from being a unique series to being like every other RPG-- predictable, clichéd, and so, so very simple. Sure, XII was different, but X and X-2 were horribly disappointing.

Every Final Fantasy has a very simple story line, what are you talking about?

When I say 'simple' I meant the gameplay. FFX was so boringly easy. However, I found FFIX and the 16-bit series to be rather difficult.

[Peter_20]

I do have to say I disliked the fact that you couldn't change camera angles, though; that's probably the thing that annoyed me the most.

[blackmage_nuke]

To deal with one of yr obvious mistakes though. Wakka to begin with is prejudiced against Al Bhed. Whether cos he's racist or against machina doesn't matter, its wrong. But he learns during the journey that Al Bhed aren't the real enemy, and that its Yevon that's corrupt and hypocritical. He even apologises to Cid for his previous ignorance. So he's not just a stupid "redneck", is he?

Right. The same way a KKK guy "apologises" to Al Sharpton. Nobody magically unlearns prejudice - it sticks with you until you die - and if you want to argue that Wakka somehow did, you immediately concede that he is an unrealistic character as well as just a badly written character and a filthy scumbag racist.

It's like if you found out nazi's and hitler didnt kill thousands of jews and all along they historians and government were lying to you, and all this time nazi's werent racist at all but it's just what youve always been taught. your opinions of them would change wouldnt they.
(no personal belief attached to this, just looking for an example)

And the random battles is a matter of opinion, I personally prefered random encounters to seeing monsters on the over world and fighting them.

[Slothy]

Tidus started out a little whiny (for about five minutes to be honest. There are few times he complains about anything besides the fact that Yuna is expected to die to save the world. A valid complaint if you ask me), but by the end of the game he had matured as a character and really grew into the role of a hero willing to die to save the world and the people he cared about. His growth was natural and logical as he was affected by the events around him.

I hope you felt dirty after dropping that massive load onto the interbutts. Tidus does not develop at all. He's still the whiny spoiled child he at the end as he was at the start of the game, the only difference is the volume of cutscene (not gameplay, we already clarified there basically is none) hours is massive enough to make people like you learn to love him. Anyone who thinks he's "mature" obviously has never taken the time to learn the meaning of the word.

I stated my reasons for feeling he matured as a character. The thing is, I think most reasonable people who actually played the game would probably agree. You however have provided no evidence in support of your opinion that he never grows as a character. Instead you simply whine about how much he sucked while providing no facts from the game. The character of Tidus showed more maturity in the first 20 minutes of gameplay than you have in this thread so far.

To deal with one of yr obvious mistakes though. Wakka to begin with is prejudiced against Al Bhed. Whether cos he's racist or against machina doesn't matter, its wrong. But he learns during the journey that Al Bhed aren't the real enemy, and that its Yevon that's corrupt and hypocritical. He even apologises to Cid for his previous ignorance. So he's not just a stupid "redneck", is he?

Right. The same way a KKK guy "apologises" to Al Sharpton. Nobody magically unlearns prejudice - it sticks with you until you die - and if you want to argue that Wakka somehow did, you immediately concede that he is an unrealistic character as well as just a badly written character and a filthy scumbag racist.

This just shows how utterly ignorant you are. It's easy for people to remain ignorant bigots until they see the suffering it causes from the other side as Wakka did. Some people stay racists for life, but not everyone can when faced with the things Wakka saw through the course of the game (such as when the Al Bhed Home was attacked and people were being indiscrimanently killed).

Your posts only continue to demonstrate that you're incapable of backing up your complaints about the game with examples. Frankly, unless you can start discussing the game in a mature manner then I'm done talking about it with you in this thread. I see no reason to continue if you're incapable of showing the same respect to your fellow forum goers as I have to you so far.

[Goldenboko]

To be honest, I totally agree with Godhand here. When compared to other Final Fantasies (X-2 aside) X is horrible! It's basically where FF goes from being a unique series to being like every other RPG-- predictable, clichéd, and so, so very simple. Sure, XII was different, but X and X-2 were horribly disappointing.

Every Final Fantasy has a very simple story line, what are you talking about?

When I say 'simple' I meant the gameplay. FFX was so boringly easy. However, I found FFIX and the 16-bit series to be rather difficult.

FFVII was boringly easy, FFVIII was boringly easy. FFX at least implemented a battle system that made you notice whats going on. And as long as you didn't overlevel the game had challenging parts, I.E. Seymour Flux, and for some people Yunalesca.

pwned the thread

Contentless reply. On other boards, people get banned for this. Since you obviously aren't, you must be some kind of fat eCelebrity here or something to get away with it.

That was called a joke, the rules here do not state you can't joke around in the FF section, calm down or gtfo.

Tidus started out a little whiny (for about five minutes to be honest. There are few times he complains about anything besides the fact that Yuna is expected to die to save the world. A valid complaint if you ask me), but by the end of the game he had matured as a character and really grew into the role of a hero willing to die to save the world and the people he cared about. His growth was natural and logical as he was affected by the events around him.

I hope you felt dirty after dropping that massive load onto the interbutts. Tidus does not develop at all. He's still the whiny spoiled child he at the end as he was at the start of the game, the only difference is the volume of cutscene (not gameplay, we already clarified there basically is none) hours is massive enough to make people like you learn to love him. Anyone who thinks he's "mature" obviously has never taken the time to learn the meaning of the word.

Yes he has. Compare his reaction upon meeting Jecht at the end of the game to how he acts when hes mentioned throughout all points before.

[QUOTE=Godhand;2257913]

I'd comment on more, but reading your comments are painful seeing as you can't make any reaction toward the game thats really worth reading.

I am sorry that I am calling it how it is rather than how you have deluded yourself into thinking it is or want it to be.

[quote]
Thanks for proving my point. I said I'd comment more but its really not worth reading, because its not. You can't debate without trying to cut down the other person instead of the other persons arguments.

Do you even know when FFX was released?

Random battles are a product of hardware limitations that do not exist on the Playstation 2. Regardless of release date, it is a sign of incredible laziness or incompetence on Square's part that they continue to implement them.

No, random battles could've been eliminated far before FFX, Chrono Trigger had a system where you could see the enemies before running into them, and thus evade them. It was square's choice to stick with its roots not any laziness on Square's part. And when it comes down to it, it appears to be the right choice, considering how much more success FFX had over FFXII, a game that tried to do away with random battles.

I'm not saying you can't hate FFX, I hate certain FFs, but I am saying you haven't given the game the proper chance, and you tend to flame people when they point this out.