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To be honest I think the "Animated Series" represented the Batman franchise the best but Burton's work are not so terrible. I agree Batman Begins is a superior movie to the others. Of course I'm a Tim Burton fan so I am a little bias about his way of doing things. Of anything, I think Burton portrayed Gotham the best and I do enjoy his work on Bruce Wayne's character in the first film.
Agreed on the Animated Series. I also am a huge Burton fan believe it or not. I just can't stand his Batman movies. They were too campy for me, and I just feel he didn't really understand any of the characters.
To each their own I guess I personally feel Burton put enough humor and camp to make the films special and not fall into being too melodramatic. But glad to hear there is anothor Tim Burton fan on the forums.

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George Clooney was pretty bad but I blame Joel Schumacher and his inabilty to direct as the fault. To be honest Joel makes a similiar mistake that the Ceej brought up about Clooney's portrayel. Tim Burton pretty much established what the Batman movies should be like and though Tim had quite a bit of humor in the films, it never felt too campy or out of place. Joel sorta tried to meld what Tim did with the old 60's sitcom to disasterous results. I demand new Batman films with Two Face and Mr. Freeze portrayed in a darker and grimer setting (Batman the Animated Series FTW!)
Schumacher did ruin Burton's Batman franchise. That's true. But Schumacher directed Val Kilmer and he was still able to play Keaton's Batman. One can hardly blame Schumacher for Clooney's acting abilities. Yes, he can act. He just can't play a role previously defined as I stated earlier that most actors can't. Maybe if Clooney were able to play Keaton's Batman, then the movie might actually have been quasi-watchable.
No, I believe Schumacher's vision was way too off. Even if Clooney did pull it off it wouldn't have saved the terrible characterizations of Bat Girl, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, and Bane... All of these characters were two dimensional jokes of what they should have been. Which is a shame cause I feel Uma and Arnold could have pulled off their characters if the script and director were better. Bane and Bat Girl would have to be completely rewritten or just plain removed. I also feel it's a shame that the script and director were terrible in Batman Forever since both Jim Carey and Tommy Lee Jones were perfect choices for their roles.

As for Val, I just never felt like he did a good job of portraying Keaton's Batman. Then again, I never felt Val should have been chosen to play the role cause it doesn't fit him as an actor (consequently, he did a rather fine job of the Saint). Val has too many emotions and I felt he pushed Batman's grief too much into the forefront of his character.

Also, for those who hate The Batman, thank you! I thought I was the only person who couldn't stand that show...