I think me, Jack and Zorander once can very close to buying EoEo bans for tearing Agrudis apart in there, the fact we did so with cold hard logic, reasoning and quotes of him speaking in other posts it was in the words of one person "mechanical, cold, like a corn thresher" lol I still laugh at that. It was rather beautiful but I do remember getting told off by Leeza and huge chunks of my post snipped I thought we were allowed to give advice there? :P