Exactly. Which links back to my main contention, KH is for kids.Originally Posted by Advent VII
And KHK, you're twisting my words. The Wooden Sword does very little damage. Metal swords do as much, if not more damage, than Keyblades.
No it's a very babyish game
Yes it's perfectly fine.
Exactly. Which links back to my main contention, KH is for kids.
And KHK, you're twisting my words. The Wooden Sword does very little damage. Metal swords do as much, if not more damage, than Keyblades.
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My hero!Ahem, Aladdin wields a Scimitar. And Lexaeus Wields a massive Tomahawk thank you.
He wasn't implying that Lexaeus used a sword. He was saying that Lexaeus was killed by a sword-user, which was reinforcing his point that swords deal damage in this game.Ahem, Aladdin wields a Scimitar. And Lexaeus Wields a massive Tomahawk thank you.
Xemnas-Lightsabers (Star Wars is just Samurai in space)
Lexaeus-Axe (Tomahawks are axes)
Zexion-Book (To those who understand this, you deserve to understand this)
Saďx-Sword (Claymores are swords)
Tidus-Wooden Sword (he owns your HP)
Sephiroth-Sword
At first I thought the game was comletely stupid and childish, but like most Final Fantasies, once I looked deeper into the game/plot, I loved it.
I would never call it childish nowadays.
Scimitar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaAhem, Aladdin wields a Scimitar. And Lexaeus Wields a massive Tomahawk thank you.
Oh, and I didn't even bring Lexaeus up, I said he was killed by Riku. Read my post more carefully before you reply.
KHK, you should find yourself a new hero, preferably one not so full of fail. I would recommend Tavrobel.
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Recently, everyone seems to be taking the internet too seriously. Just chill out (not you Tav, you're cool)
Wow on edge much, Firo and Balthier you guys should just chill. I think it's just the disney that makes the game childish. Final Fantasy makes it better but the disney...bleh. If there were no disney characters then there would be less corny moments, but that would lead to no plot because they need the disney characters for worlds and such. So yeah I don't think it's that childish, just a little so it can appeal to younger children as well as older ones.
Having disney in games just make it MORE fun!!
Down firo down. KHK you do tend to fanboy a little about KH.
I think the game has it's childish moments but many games do this. Every game you play has that one scene where you feel something that the game creator wasn't trying to make you feel. It's a fact of gaming. You will percieve things differently.
In KH2 the 1000 heartless war was so down played I was pissed. I pretty much didn't have to work to kill them which is what i wanted. I was supposed to fel like sora was some huge badass with amaing strength. BUt I actually felt that they cheated me on a huge battle that I was looking forward to. I got used to it and now I'm over it.
Fat kids are harder to Kidnap.
No, you back off. You started it, all I'm doing is defending my own argument. You mis-quote me, saying stuff like "Laexaeus wields a tomahawk" when I never claimed it was a sword. You're just mad because you can't push me around.
Oh, this is classic. I'm the reason people commit suicide? Get real. As they say, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you can't take what you dish out, maybe you shouldn't pick fights, hm?"Oh, your just SOOO full of fail... " Stop making people feel bad, no wonder people suicide...
So? Anime is "cartoony", and many kinds happen to be very gruesome or sexually explicit, therefore kids should be exposed to it? I don't think KH is a kids-exclusive game, by any stretch of the imagination; but if you were to sort all games into two groups, "adult games" and "baby games", KH would definitely go into the latter category. This is the main point of this thread, whether you agree with the guy who called it a baby game.How is it a baby game? Yes it is for kids (12+) but that does not stop adults from playing the game as well, like, The Wii minigames, they have "cartoony" Graphics, yet lots of adults love to play it
Not just some corny moments. The whole main plot was corny; light versus darkness. In many games and movies, both the protagonist and the main villain have shades of grey; the hero isn't entirely good, the badguy isn't entirely evil. Now, in KH, Sora is basically a personification of light, while Org. XIII is pure evil. While certain characters like Axel and Roxas are good, they're strictly in the minority. With this and other innocent characteristics, such as lack of violence and sexual references, make KH very kid-friendly, and therefore a baby game when compared to series like Final Fantasy. That is what I am arguing. Nothing more.Just because KHII have som Corny moments, does not make it a BABY GAME.
That's all I've got to say to this thread. I guess I am getting too worked up over it.
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its not childish they just dont get to deep with romance and crap like that
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The rest of anime is not?
Cowboy Bebop
Rurouni Kenshin
Fate/Stay night
Melancholy of Haruhi
1999/X
These amongst others could hardly be considered childish, and none of them are sexually explicit (F/SN could be argued, but the best that you get is a naked 10 year old homonculus, who by definition, is the protagonist's younger sister). I suggest you expand your own definition of what is anime and what is not, before you attempt to impose your beliefs, flawed as they are and full of misconceptions due to a lack of information, on others.
Are you even sure that you know what hentai is? It doesn't mean pornographic. It means perverted. Pornographic animation is simply pornographic animation, split into categories that describe it. Furthermore, I do not believe that you are on any grounds to argue a point with Firo, as you misquoted his text, and countered it. You can only quote if you do not change the meaning of his wording.
Notice the difference between the two quotes. One has a fully constructed train of thought with supporting evidence. The other one is a poorly paraphrased, and additionally, changes the original intention. If I were to read the second example, I might be led to believe that Firo was stating that Lexeus used a sword. A full stop (period) makes a difference, especially in placement. If you'd like, I can deconstruct his entire argument, phrase by phrase, lingustically and point out every point where an error was made in the "translation."
In regards to the topic, Firo, I disagree that OXIII could be considered pure evil. At best they are slightly grey group of antagonists who were thrown into an impossible situation. Given the choice either to wander alone in pain and confusion or to organize and attempt to progress, most would choose the latter.
OXIII was formed from the remnants of those who willingly gave up their Hearts in exchange for power. Cliched as this is, it is not a childish premise for one person to exchange highly valued things for others of which they seek. If you stop to think about it, most of the corny scenes in KHII involve Square-created characters. Seifer's "we totally owned you lamers," and Sora's constant aloof-ness and dumbfoundedness form the core of many more of what can only be decribed as awkward moments.
Roxas isn't very "good," either. He's more of a bastard than Xemnas as evidenced by the game. He attacks Riku with little to no provocation (Riku never tells him that he's going to turn him into zeroes and ones). He is more concerned with himself than the aims of the Organization, a group of like-non-hearted non-individuals who share the common loss of greed and misinformation. Despite his new identity, he is still hostile and a big jerk when it comes to friends, abandoning them multiple times. In comparison to Sora, he's far more dangerous to those around him, especially since his AoE is better and has a difference of approximately 2880 HP.
Furthermore, I believe that your objection to this game as being mature is somewhat flawed, even if technically true. To compare this game to Final Fantasies, rather than to argue it as being a standalone work denies the original intention of both sets of games. As KH stands by itself, it is a fairly mature game; it would be more appropriate to classify KHII as young adult. I would otherwise agree with you on the childishness, if it were not for the basis of the situation being "lol ff rulez all and r teh bettar pr0ns."
Balthier Rocks - You really need to stop taking a minor debate on the net so personally, Firo's only proving a point, also your point about Anime being linked to Hentai is wrong, because their both separate types of "Cartoon" Anime does have sexual scenes in it, I could name a list, and Pokemon and Naruto aren't the only animes in the category, you know? Start watching the more matured animes and you'll know what I mean.
Kingdom Hearts is in the middle of both "Childish" and "Adult" ratings for me. I think the game was generally formatted for a younger gamers perspective, but could easily fit the taste for a less picky gamer as well. I found it amusing, and didn't really take notice of the babyish moments, but still saw the matureness in some of the game's scenes, the plot was deep and not "kid-friendly" although they didn't want to show deaths in the game, their obviously was a few, for example, they would never show Ansem being blown to pieces...
The rest has been thoroughly briefed over by Tavrobel, and yeah, let this debate continue.
EOFF needs a resurgence to it's former glory.
I don't think it's babyish, but even if it was I don't think that's a bad thing.
Im 12, do you really want a Young Kid watching some "Mature" Anime/hentai? Thats really quite wrong.
Oh, and Btw, Ill be deleateing all posts ive posted in this thread. Good bye.
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