The rest of anime is not?Originally Posted by Balthier Rocks
Cowboy Bebop
Rurouni Kenshin
Fate/Stay night
Melancholy of Haruhi
1999/X
These amongst others could hardly be considered childish, and none of them are sexually explicit (F/SN could be argued, but the best that you get is a naked 10 year old homonculus, who by definition, is the protagonist's younger sister). I suggest you expand your own definition of what is anime and what is not, before you attempt to impose your beliefs, flawed as they are and full of misconceptions due to a lack of information, on others.
Are you even sure that you know what hentai is? It doesn't mean pornographic. It means perverted. Pornographic animation is simply pornographic animation, split into categories that describe it. Furthermore, I do not believe that you are on any grounds to argue a point with Firo, as you misquoted his text, and countered it. You can only quote if you do not change the meaning of his wording.
Notice the difference between the two quotes. One has a fully constructed train of thought with supporting evidence. The other one is a poorly paraphrased, and additionally, changes the original intention. If I were to read the second example, I might be led to believe that Firo was stating that Lexeus used a sword. A full stop (period) makes a difference, especially in placement. If you'd like, I can deconstruct his entire argument, phrase by phrase, lingustically and point out every point where an error was made in the "translation."
In regards to the topic, Firo, I disagree that OXIII could be considered pure evil. At best they are slightly grey group of antagonists who were thrown into an impossible situation. Given the choice either to wander alone in pain and confusion or to organize and attempt to progress, most would choose the latter.
OXIII was formed from the remnants of those who willingly gave up their Hearts in exchange for power. Cliched as this is, it is not a childish premise for one person to exchange highly valued things for others of which they seek. If you stop to think about it, most of the corny scenes in KHII involve Square-created characters. Seifer's "we totally owned you lamers," and Sora's constant aloof-ness and dumbfoundedness form the core of many more of what can only be decribed as awkward moments.
Roxas isn't very "good," either. He's more of a bastard than Xemnas as evidenced by the game. He attacks Riku with little to no provocation (Riku never tells him that he's going to turn him into zeroes and ones). He is more concerned with himself than the aims of the Organization, a group of like-non-hearted non-individuals who share the common loss of greed and misinformation. Despite his new identity, he is still hostile and a big jerk when it comes to friends, abandoning them multiple times. In comparison to Sora, he's far more dangerous to those around him, especially since his AoE is better and has a difference of approximately 2880 HP.
Furthermore, I believe that your objection to this game as being mature is somewhat flawed, even if technically true. To compare this game to Final Fantasies, rather than to argue it as being a standalone work denies the original intention of both sets of games. As KH stands by itself, it is a fairly mature game; it would be more appropriate to classify KHII as young adult. I would otherwise agree with you on the childishness, if it were not for the basis of the situation being "lol ff rulez all and r teh bettar pr0ns."
