Before you kiddies could hold a controller, we played the good 'ol stuff, while I love Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest with all my heart, I do miss the stat-based, incredibly deep and hardcore adventures for the PC. No upbeat pop music, no Anime-style visuals, no deep backgrounds for predetermined characters, we made our party, we made our plot, we did what we needed, and did it well. We did everything we could do, they gave us the paint and canvas, we craft our adventure. Now, I would really jump for joy if anyone knows of some decent old-school not incredibly gory, (I have a phobia, you see...) PC RPG's. No Neverwinter Nights, no Elder Scrolls, I want stuff like say... Might and Magic, Wizadry, Ultima, no D&D, no action elements, no fancy ragdoll lighting effects or whatever you kiddies need these days, I want the old stuff, the originals, the good 'ol classic American, geeky, mega RPG. First person, party-creatin', open-ended, old-school stuff. Anybody with me!? (No, Final Fantasy I dosen't count, no dungeon hacks, no console stuff, give me the old-school old-school, the original RPG.)