Kefka, for saying, "Son of a Submariner!"
Kefka, for saying, "Son of a Submariner!"
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
whos' obama?
Technically, it was only one.Kuja destroyed two planets.
While Kuja caused havoc across Gaia first by manipulating Brahne and then forcing the iifa Tree's roots to burst through the ground, the planet wasn't in any state of ruin.
Dude its got to be sephiroth.When he does that move at the end of ffvii dosent he destroy jupiter, the largest planet?
That is just a cool battle animation made to impress people. If you use that to determine his power, it would make no sense because he supposedly destroyed the sun and Earth as well. And if Earth really did get blown up by the sun, nobody could survive that. But it is clearly shown that your characters are still alive, and Earth is still intact after you manage to beat Sephiroth.Originally Posted by Monsey
ive never heard of any of these villians except kuja and sepiroth...who hasn heard of him lol...pleez tell me who is kefka exdeath and the other ones and which ff are they from
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Kefka FFVIive never heard of any of these villians except kuja and sepiroth...who hasn heard of him lol...pleez tell me who is kefka exdeath and the other ones and which ff are they from
ExDeath FFV
You should really play the older games, they're just as good, if not better, then the 3D ones.
Kefka, when it comes down to it no matter how much I love Kuja, Kefka did a bit more.
Kuja destroyed a Small, dying planet. All of the people there survived as well, by moving to Gaia.
Kefka destroyed (basically) a large, living, thriving planet, and killed, presumably, millions.
And Exdeath basically succeeded in what Kuja originally planned to do, merging 2 planets together- although the act of which probably wasnt nearly as lethal to the inhabitants of both planets as Kefkas actions to his world. Exdeath just made Planet A and Planet B into Planet A+B
dang sound like some badazz villians lol...kefka sounds the worst...i would say sepiroth but he only attempted to destroy the planet right
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It's funny that most people in this thread believe that a villain is successful ONLY if he/she/it destroyed the world or caused damage to it.
The villains who didn't want to destroy the world then, didn't achieve anything, right?
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Its not that you have to destroy a world, but I would consider the most accomplished villain would be one who did exactly set out what he wanted to do. Not many FF villains actually "win", and although Kefka does die, he did pretty much win at the whole "destroy the planet and murder millions" plan. Most other villains either want to destroy the world, or completely own/rule the world. How many FFs has the main bad guy successfully ruled the world for a significant amount of time, or actually succeed in destroying/dismantling the world?
Garland in 1 didnt actually complete much, however neat his plan was
The Emporer in 2 did get to rule the world for a while, but that was already in place before the game started so I wouldnt even say that counts. As soon as the heroes get innvolved, hes pretty much shut down rather quick
Honestly dont remember the full story of 3, but the main bad guy wasnt even shown until the last 10 minutes of the game, so ya...
Golbez in 4 managed to wreak havoc on the world, but didnt completely rule it and was eventually shut down before he could leave any permanent scars
We've already discussed Exdeath
Then theres Kefka, we know him. Gained power of gods, destroyed the world, killed millions, left the planet permanently disfigured
Sephiroth failed to destroy the planet, the only main thing he set out to do. Hes cool, but he didnt end up accomplishing much (aside from abusing cloud and later allowing him to come to grips with himself)
Eights final boss achieved time compression and was almost immediately fixed by our heroes after they entered time compression and whooped her bad.
Then Kuja, who did well for himself but ultimately not as much as Kefka
Yu Yevon hasnt gotten much praise in this thread, and it should be noted he kept Sin going for a long time, keeping the world in a permanent state of despair and panic for a very very long time.
And Vayne killed people and didnt even finish conquering another kingdom before being taken down
Wow I'm bored for typing all that
Destroying/Dismanteling worlds or killing millions does not always make a villain a villain.
Now look at Xande. He won and could enjoy his victory far longer than Kefka, or Kuja or any villain aside from Yu Yevon, if Yevon is a villain (the game doesn't state it). For around 15 years he halted the entire flow of time on the surface world, to halt his own aging proces and thus gain a form of 'immortality', after Noah gave him mirtality as his gift. His goal never was to rule the world. Only to get back his immortality (for we learn he was furious Noah made him mortal). And he succeeded. Well sure, he never expected to become a pawn of the Cloud of Darkness, but hey, stuff happens...
Now if you ask where I get "15 years" from, it's the following: Cid tells us he fled the surface world with his airship when "The Darkness came". That's Xande darkening the surface's Crystals. With his escape he had 4 babies aboard, that being Luneth and co which would later be the Lightwarriors. Seeing as baby is mostly something beteen 0 or 1 year, and Luneth is 17 I believe when he's chosen, that makes for more than 15 years Xande halted the flow of time and enjoyed is victory. If he could enjoy anything while under the Cloud's control, that is.
Only Yu Yevon beats him in time-span. Or maybe Garland, if his 2000 year time-loop actually did something.
Oh, and let's not forget Exdeath did more than merge 2 worlds together. He kinda made big black holes in the world as well. Sure it all returned when he was defeated, but he still made the world a big cheese for a while.
What he said.Destroying/Dismanteling worlds or killing millions does not always make a villain a villain.
Now look at Xande. He won and could enjoy his victory far longer than Kefka, or Kuja or any villain aside from Yu Yevon, if Yevon is a villain (the game doesn't state it). For around 15 years he halted the entire flow of time on the surface world, to halt his own aging proces and thus gain a form of 'immortality', after Noah gave him mirtality as his gift. His goal never was to rule the world. Only to get back his immortality (for we learn he was furious Noah made him mortal). And he succeeded. Well sure, he never expected to become a pawn of the Cloud of Darkness, but hey, stuff happens...
Now if you ask where I get "15 years" from, it's the following: Cid tells us he fled the surface world with his airship when "The Darkness came". That's Xande darkening the surface's Crystals. With his escape he had 4 babies aboard, that being Luneth and co which would later be the Lightwarriors. Seeing as baby is mostly something beteen 0 or 1 year, and Luneth is 17 I believe when he's chosen, that makes for more than 15 years Xande halted the flow of time and enjoyed is victory. If he could enjoy anything while under the Cloud's control, that is.
Only Yu Yevon beats him in time-span. Or maybe Garland, if his 2000 year time-loop actually did something.
Oh, and let's not forget Exdeath did more than merge 2 worlds together. He kinda made big black holes in the world as well. Sure it all returned when he was defeated, but he still made the world a big cheese for a while.
We have some villains that accomplished more than Kefka. The problem is that he is almost like Sephiroth. He have so many fanboys/girls, that the other villains are overshadowed by him.
Other villains Elpizo didn't mention but are successful, is Ultimecia(she was the ruler of the world in the future), and Kuja(accomplished his main goal of killing Garland).
Destroying the planet wasn't his plan, it was a side-effect of it. He wanted to gain controll over the Lifestream, and we can say he was partially successful, after using Geostigma to corrupt and controll it.
Sorry. I couldn't help it. Hope this is as funny a reference to everyone else as it was to me.
i say Kuja: teamed up with the queen of the second strongest nation in the world and used her army and his magic to defeat the other two nations.(Lindblum and Buremica/Cleyra)Then killed her and wiped out many of the alexandrian army along with their fleet of warships.
Then attacked Alexandria using summon magic.
Destroys Terra and Annihilates your team, by now he has also escaped from your team many times. Finally faces your team again kills them but then saves them. What a character
If I was like Cloud I don't think I would have taken that test.
Changed to stop Jessweeee♪ from going insane. Is that better?
To be fair, Kefka didn't murder millions. If you go through and count every NPC, there can't be more than a few hundred people in the entire world.
But he still wins.
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