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    That being said, Kefka didn't destroy any world - he fried 1 town.
    Wrong actually. He unleashed his light of judgement against every town simply for fun. This was also after he had originally rearranged the face of the world and made it so that no new plants could grow from the land, essentially ensuring that everything on the planet was condemned to a slow death. And prior to becoming a god he had already killed all the espers and poisoned an entire kingdom. As much as you may want to argue that others accomplished more, none of them accomplished more in game, caused as much suffering, or had the sort of lasting effect he did on their world.
    That must have been a pretty weak light considering every town in the world was the same as before it, except for Mobliz, who didn't even have their entire village wiped out or their structures torn down, just with a few holes in them. Nor did he kill all the espers as the party still had theres and even more were still alive in the world.

    Also, he didn't poison an entire Kingdom - only the castle. Which also illustrates how much of a little girl Kefka is. He did it with poison from a safe distance. There were probably more people in the Shinra building than in the entire world of FFVI, much less Doma Castle.

    As far as making everyone lose hope for an extended period of time, Meteor did that. The Void did that. The Imperial dominance of Palamecia did that. And the emporer/x-death destroyed several towns, not just 1. Ultimecia destroyed the entire world in her time. Not rearrange the structure, not just some of the population in one town, she killed EVERYONE.
    You're too worried about body counts. Kefka had the entire world fear him far more then Imperial dominance, X-Death, or Ulti did. In all of the other games there where lots of people willing to speak out and resist against the main villain. In FFVI everyone was so afraid of suddenly being blown to bits they didn't dare. Fear, its far worse then just killing someone.

    Now continuing on... You're being a graphic whore. He did rearrange the face of the earth, consider the location of each city. The developers didn't go to crazy making everywhere appear rearrange and utterly destroyed because of the timeframe it was made, they could only push the system it was on so far. You seem to use graphics to support your arguments in place we are talking about storyline.

    And if you want to talk about body count, think about this. When he moved the statues lots of people died. Remember the scene of the earth changing shape? People where falling into large cracks of the earth to their doom.

    EDIT- As for staying behind and poisoning Doma. That proves two things.

    1. You have some kind of sense that villains need to be macho, march into places, and kill everything in sight. Thats not a smart villain, that is a dumb one. A smart villain will kill just as much as a macho one without risking death.

    2. Kefka was ruthless. He killed his own soldiers while poisoning Doma, I dare you to say that you could make an order like that.
    there's so many misinterpretations and red herrings in this post that I am going to refuse to acknowledge it。
    啊;拉;拉是俄克,雌蛾,诶!!!!
    What kind of statement is that? If they where so many "misinterpretations and red herrings" you should easily be able to make a response.
    Okay. I think you need to actually play FFII before you engage in threads that discuss the entire series. The entire world gave up hope in that game. As did the population in the world of VII and V. Only the main party dared challenge their respective villains, just like in VI. You should probably play/complete/pay attention to those games because it seems like you have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Second. I’m not sure how discussing how anything Kefka did makes me a graphic whore. I never said he didn’t rearrange the face of the earth. This has nothing to do with limitations – all of the towns were intact except Mobliz, that’s just the way it was. If you played Chrono Trigger, you would see that even with the Super Nintendo, updating levels was not a hard thing to do, even the world map was altered several times depending on what you did. So once again, it seems like you don’t know what you’re talking about, and you’re devolving the argument by bringing up graphics, which I did not mention.

    I’m not sure what significance your statement on villains has. My point was that Kefka is a cowardly little girl.
    No they didn't "Give up hope" in FFVII, I will say, most of the general population didn't think they could do anything to stop the oncoming doom. But the main party wasn't the only one who tried, Shinra tried, without them, we wouldn't even have gotten pasted the barrier. What I'm saying is in FFVI, you where the only resistance. That was it, just you.

    Second. You're implying things about graphics. You say "the towns where unchanged". If anything thats because of laziness on the developers parts, plus all of the plants of the earth being dead is hardly "nothing changed". If anything, thats worse then a few broken buildings.

    You're last part proved my point. You have this macho-needing attitude. Poisoning Doma castle wasn't cowardly, it was "I'm tired of waiting for you guys to kill them, I'm doing this the fast way."

    Lastly, don't sit here and tell me I don't know anything, its very rude. Occasionally I do post things in a hurry, which have errors in them (I shouldn't have included X-Death, but I accidentally did), but you take debating far too seriously, and find a need to try and make other people sound like trash.
    Last edited by Goldenboko; 08-22-2007 at 08:25 PM.

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