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and find a need to try and make other people sound like trash.
my lord, the irony is killing me

you completely disreguard my main points, are consistently inconsistent with your arguments (differentiating losing hope with not thinking you can do anything), and focus on side comments as main components (Machismo has nothing to do with it - it was my potshot at Kefka, my other points detail how he accomplished just as much or less than other FF villains). I just can't take you seriously.

That being said, I think one way in which Kefka accomplished maybe more than any other character is that he became a "god" although that's debatable and other villains, although not stated to be gods, had just as much or more power.
Irony? I've yet to make a single comment doubting how much you know about FFs. Although you've been trying to cut me down every turn.

I'm fretting over details I find important.
ironic because almost every post i've seen you make in an FF forum is a disagreement, many times being your only contribution to a thread. Just like this little episode began with your initial disagreement with my original post. So I'm not allowed to defend my post w/o it being "tyring to cut you down at every turn"???. And pointing out the flaws in your criticisms of me is "taking debating far too seriously"??? Okay....

My votes going to Ultimecia in that she got rid of everything in her own time, turning the entire planet to a wasteland, killing the multiple generations of waves of SeeD's going at her, and was directly manipulating major events in another time period (or dimension as Future Esthar has said ). Her absorbing time and existence at the end of the game, as Crystal pointed out in a few threads, seems to be the clincher.