What FF Villains Could Beat Sin?S

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Sephiroth summoned meteor, either he lives or not, the meteor still hits ''btw, he said could defeat sin, didn't said he could defeat vuce versa, if Sephiroth tries to take it on with the masumune, then he's dead''
But it's the meteor that defeats it.

Sephiroth summoning Meteor shouldn't even count. He had to use the Black Materia in order to use Meteor, not out of his own power. Anybody could have probably done the same thing if he or she had the Black Materia.

Ultimecia lives in space, sin can't attack her, and she can do whatever she wants. She acheives her goal, all other existance denied, no more sin, and even in a 1vs1, she cast her spell and sin has 1 hp remaining, finishes sin off before he can attack. Maybe the same for Sephi.
BTW: I'm pretty sure that Eden GF would annihilate Sin.

Okay...

First off, Ultimecia does NOT live in space. She lives in a castle in the future. That's where all your characters went to go fight her in the end of the game. Secondly, it takes a long time for Time Compression to occur; my guess is over 1000 years. But before that 1000 years occurs, she only has power equivalent to any other sorceress. Her power is nothing compared to Sin and she would be annihilated. Thirdly, if you decide to include Hell's Judgement, you would be going by battle mechanics. And according to battle mechanics, Sin's Giga Graviton automatically kills anything. Ulti gets annihilated again.

By the way, there is no way to really tell whether Eden could annihilate Sin. After all, the only thing we have to judge Eden with is Eternal Breath, which doesn't actually destroy the galaxy.

And Also!
Sin Also needs to charge it's attack and takes a longer while than any other ff boss.

And as said before, it was because of the Hymn of the Faith and Jecht holding back Yu-Yevon that made Sin wait before using Giga Graviton.

The Last Ultimecia is her true form, the human one is just a cover up.
1-Technically it's space and out, it's the time compression and Ultimecia sucking up the whole universe, void, and nothing exist, not even sin.
2-Sin's gigatron takes a while to attack, several turns, she makes her first move 'Sin has 1 HP remaining' then her last to finish it.
3-ok then, if your giga graviton kills off anything, then just bring Odin'FFVIII' and finishes off Sin in an instant.
Or better yet, Seifer, he kills Odin in an instant.
(And Seifer's not the strongest of bosses... but if you are overwhelmed about battle mechanix...)


As for Eden, you want to compare sizes?
Greiver's Shockwave Pulsar is pretty strong.

As for your so called 1000 years, is impossible for her lifespawn to accomplish.
Another thing, she needed to have Elone to go further in the past to achieve it.
Took an instant. And time compression was acheive, and then Squall and co travelled in the futur, ect...

Here's a clip for you, about who's better between Ruby Vs Emerald, conclusion?....

Sephiroth summoned meteor, either he lives or not, the meteor still hits ''btw, he said could defeat sin, didn't said he could defeat vuce versa, if Sephiroth tries to take it on with the masumune, then he's dead''
But it's the meteor that defeats it.

Sin can't stop Meteor. So? It's not like Meteor can change course. Sin just flies out of its range. Meteor strikes the Planet instead, causing a wound in it, which is then healed by the Lifestream. In
FFVII, Meteor wasn't intended to destroy the Planet, just to draw the Lifestream to one point so it could be absorbed.

Ultimecia lives in space, sin can't attack her, and she can do whatever she wants. She acheives her goal, all other existance denied, no more sin, and even in a 1vs1, she cast her spell and sin has 1 hp remaining, finishes sin off before he can attack. Maybe the same for Sephi.
BTW: I'm pretty sure that Eden GF would annihilate Sin.

I'm not an expert on FFVIII's plot, so I may be disregarding plot points, but there's nothing to suggest Sin couldn't survive in space (if Ultimecia and Squall can bypass the problems of space being a vacuum and lack of oxygen then Sin certainly could). HP is a game mechanic; Ulty can't just siphon off Sin's HP with spells, she needs something to break through his armour. I don't know of any magic she would have access to that would be strong enough.

A puny army of weakly cavalry couldn't even dream of scratching the likes of sin.
But the mighty Bahamut, Lord of the Skys, annihilates huge ships in 1 hit. Boost Power to maximum, without the pesky vaan and co reducing the power of it at the tower. Well, you all know how strong Bahamut is. It can and would destroy sin's shell.

Doesn't sound like anything more powerful than what the Machina War (1000 years before the start of FFX) would've produced. And you all know how they fared against Sin.

Bahamut is not a machina

Um, yes it is. "Machina" is just another word for "machine". FFXII's Bahamut is not an Esper, or any other kind of living organism.

Bahamut is not a ship, and that ship did pierce the shield to be destroyed after, but bahamut hid itself behind Alexander.
And even the Ifrit Ship is 400x times bigger than that puny ship. Burn!

That point may be clear to someone who's finished XII, but it's not to me.

And Also!
Sin Also needs to charge it's attack and takes a longer while than any other ff boss.

FFS, how many times do I have to say it? THE HYMN WEAKENS SIN AND MAKES HIM SLOWER THAN NORMAL. WITHOUT THE HYMN, HE CAN ATTACK IMMEDIATELY.

I'm also sure that any OmegaFFVII/FFVIII-Ruby-Emerald weapon could beat that boss in an instant.

No, other way around. Sin would crush them in an instant.

1-Not quite pal, the planet gets destroyed, reson why Cloud and co must save it.
(Really want to debate this, the planet would get destroyed, ok.)
If it destroys the planet, then sin is destroyed along with it.


2-What I meant is that the real Ultimecia lives somewhere sin cannot go. (starting by futur)
She doesn't need to break it, time-compression destroys Sin.

3-Against Bahamut? Are you Crazy!? Bahamut Annihilates anything it wants to destroy. The Mega-Flare at full blast here is much stronger than sin's Giga Graviton. It's Bahamut that we are talking about here, not just some little power.


Bahamut IS NOT A MACHINA NOR A MACHINE!
To be a Machine, you need to have artificial intelligence to interact in the world being by it's own.
It's not a robot.
Bahamut is controlled by humans, so it makes it a Vessel or Airship, whatever you want to call it.

I did, Ifrit ship, surely throws Fire, so yeah, burn.
And yet Bahamut Ship is even Bigger than that.
We've seen Sin go on top of a tower, and my anylisist is that the Ifrit Ship alone is bigger than Sin, but not by too much, about 125%-180%. Yet Alexander ship is like 4-7 times the size of Ifrit. And Alexander is smaller than Bahamut.

Bahamut Ship is shaped like a huge tower. it has something like what, 2,4,7 thousand floors.
I'd say it's bigger than the DMC3 tower, where it goes up high, minus the lack of space on the DVD to create of of theses floors, forcing the game to ascent many stage.

I'm pretty sure, considering the speed of the weapons, could beat up sin.
I mean, if Tidus and Co could make a hole in it to enter, all other FF characters surely can do the same.