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    Sauce : DesMoinesRegister.com

    Apparently a teacher told his class (I think it was Western Civ) that the Genesis narrative is not a literal truth (talking snakes, 6 days of creation), and some students got mad, possibly threatening legal action. The lecture in question was broadcasted over the interwebs so we might see a youfacestertube video

    Things to note is that we're not sure exactly what happened, and it was at a college so there's no such thing as tenure.

    Still scary stuff.

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    It reminds me of the Monkey Trial, way back when I was a kid in the 1920s. Some teacher was fired for trying to teach Darwin in some school in Tennessee, and the fundamentalists tried to eat him.

    It's nice to see we've evolved and improved since then. Darwin will be proud.
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    If it was in a public school I could see people flipping out that much, but at college?


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    It is about time people started getting more right.

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    wait? genesis wasnt real?

    there goes my hopes of having a talking snake.
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    its all creation myth. long ago it was something everyone knew and then some dumb smurf decided to make the bible and in doing so made this something to be fought over
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namelessfengir View Post
    its all creation myth. long ago it was something everyone knew and then some dumb smurf decided to make the bible and in doing so made this something to be fought over
    hear-hear

    some people, mainly americans (no offence) need to stop telling people that what they believe is the truth, and doing pathetic things like sacking people for stating the obvious. talking snake? pah!
    I made one myself for a change! Although you can probably tell that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namelessfengir View Post
    its all creation myth. long ago it was something everyone knew and then some dumb smurf decided to make the bible and in doing so made this something to be fought over
    The Bible was not "made" by a single person. There is no one author or even one person who compiled all the stories it contains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Namelessfengir View Post
    its all creation myth. long ago it was something everyone knew and then some dumb smurf decided to make the bible and in doing so made this something to be fought over
    The Bible was not "made" by a single person. There is no one author or even one person who compiled all the stories it contains.
    You know this how? Last time I checked the bible didn't have the authors names on the spine. And before you say "The bible says so" I could write a book and say that multiple people wrote it, doesn't make it true.

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    Lol, his last name is Bitterman. That's funny to me =(

    Anyway, this is sillypie. If you really, truly don't agree with him, then just go home and cry in bed and then forget about it. To get the man fired because you think he's wrong is pretty vicious.

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    geez... one of my professors has said similar things and no one jumped at his throat... I actually enjoy it when he challenges the bible I'm wondering if this college was in the bible belt ><

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    BAD PROFESSOR

    MAKE STUDENT THINK FOR SELF

    HURT BRAIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarWeaver View Post
    Anyway, this is sillypie. If you really, truly don't agree with him, then just go home and cry in bed and then forget about it. To get the man fired because you think he's wrong is pretty vicious.
    I agree that he should not be fired. He should, however, be reprimanded. I hate few things more than a teacher expressing their opinions as fact, especially when relegion is involved. And since simply "disagreeing" with a teacher can get your grade tanked, I would certainly not let the matter drop.
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    Okay. Here's the deal. He had a right to say what he said. The students had a right to be offended. The students had a right to say whatever they wanted back.

    But threaten to call an attorney? What kind of moron attorney would take that case? These students are idiots. This is why they don't want to hear this information, anyway. They've been brainwashed to believe one thing religiously. (I know. Took me years to unbrainwash myself.) They're afraid that if they hear new ideas that conflict with their religious brainwashings, they'll be forced to reconsider their views and possibly go to hell because of it. The short version? They're pussies.

    People who think for themselves want to hear new ideas. We want to compare these ideas with the ones we already have and then reconsider our viewpoints. This way, we keep learning. And like I said in another thread yesterday, "Knowledge is more important than happiness." Well. Those weren't my exact words, but these are the words that fit better in this thread.

    The fact is, that the school had no right to fire him over bullcrap like this. The article clearly states that he knows of no other reason that would fire him. The school is paid for with Iowa tax dollars and therefore cannot legally support any given religion without supporting them all. An attorney wouldn't have taken the case before he was fired, but they certainly will now. He could sue the school over this. Not that he'd want his job back, but he could still sue over the school supporting one relgion over the others.

    So yeah. He should sue the school, collect his reward, and move to another state and get a job teaching at another school.


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    Great, looks like we're regressing even further towards Dark Age stupidity.

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