Agreed. However, if you're caught breaking the law under the influence, you should face double the penalty. This should make people more responsible in theory. We'll see how it works in practice.Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
Agreed. However, if you're caught breaking the law under the influence, you should face double the penalty. This should make people more responsible in theory. We'll see how it works in practice.
Even though it can be pretty obvious when someone is high, how well does "it looked like he was high" stand up in court?
Pot stays in your system for quite a bit of time, while alcohol is out of the system in hours...depending on how much you drank.
Until there are tests and things of that nature to determine how high someone is and things like that, it can remain illegal. They could already have those sorts of tests but to my knowledge all it tells you is that a person smoked it in the last 30 days :P
That needs to be gotten down to hours :P
Marijuana isn't even legal in Holland - it's a harmful substance that damages your lungs and is scientifically observed to be determental to a person's psychological well being.
i smoke the pot on occassion, but I see my family who has been smoking pot 5 times a day for the past 30 years and I can visibly see the affect it has had on their life style and their personal image. Non of them are overly ambitious and they all seem to lack a general love of life.
I think the major thing pot has deprived my family of is the will or want to do anything but smoke pot.
Another instance is that i have a good friend in Holland who was recently kicked out of his home because he had been jobless for 3 years. When I visited this friend he had been smoking marijuana atleast once an hour, his personal hygeine was extremely questionable, and he suffered from extreme social paranoia...
I can't prove or say this is related to pot but I can say that a lack in social involvement and a lack of physical excercise and a lack of excellent, diet have been a form of continuity I've observed in people who smoke marijuana on a day to day basis.
having said that I don't think the Government should legalize marijuana - Especially with the recent attacks and laws that have been made against smoking in general... legalizing marijuana for purposes aside from medicinal would only create a market and a target audience and by proxy the government would basically be promoting the use of substances that are known to have detremental affects with long term, constant use.
However I do feel that the use of marijuana, like in the Netherlands, should be decriminalized and regulated by the government. I believe that the government ignores most issues because it doesn't want to "get dirty" but I think if marijuana was regulated then cutting out the middle man would save a lot of policing resources, it would eliminate a black market, ensure standards and quality control and reduce the crime rate associated with marijuana trafficing.
Boldly go.
I know several people who smoke pot and have met more in my travels. I have yet determined the direction of causality (whether lazy or unmotivated people gravitate towards pot or pot causes laziness), but either can easily be argued to be true through 'scientific' studies.
One particular colleague/friend comes to mind. Has been using drugs extensively for years, and is not exactly in the best shape. He worked in the same position I worked at, and is now getting paid more than me working somewhere else. He has good morals and some semblance of ambition, but if you didn't know that about him you'd think he was a good-for-nothing layabout. He has several scars on his body from bar fights, and despite his values he has very different opinions on things that I typically attribute to 'the working poor'. I am going to argue that my inability to judge people negatively may contribute to my acceptance of potheads and layabout lazy asses, regardless. Who knows.
I'm lazy as hell. But, I know I have to work, and I enjoy life I enjoy going out and doing things. I probably smoke 10 or so times a day. About once a hour or more depending if it's a day off or not. When I work I obviously smoke less.My farther has been smoking for 30 or so years, also drinks everyday. He works all day long everyday. Honestly my dad not smoking would be odd.
So you are saying only certain countries should have that luxury of legalizing pot?
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pot. its bad. but! i think the gov't is secretly trafficing it into the country so it'll circuit the money better. america doesnt care about morals or peoples well being, it cares about nothing more than that addictive green stuff (not the pot) $$$$$$$$$ bringing pot into the country makes stoners buy the weed, which gives the drug lords more money to pay off the cia and fbi and such so they wont get arrested, which makes them even more greedy. plus, it makes for more taxes we have to pay to support all the coppers they need to arrest said stoners and jails to put them in. i think we have more prisons in america than schools and homeless shelters. its all about the money. i hate pot and what it does to people, but i think they should legalize it.
remember how they banned alcohol in the early days? the crime rates went sky high! moonshine cellars all over the place. if you legalize it, the prices will go down on it, and it will lose its glitter and glory. being able to say "ahhhhh i smoked a giant bag of weed last weeked" is less appealing to someone if it wasnt illigal. people want to break the law to impress people (dunno why that would impress anybody), build adrenaline, and to increase rebel status. if its legal, then that wont be a problem anymore. man imma use this as the basis of my next big essay for english
Oh gods, why? ಥ_ಥ
The big red herring in all of these discussions, and what everyone seems to get hung up on defending, is the permanent negative effects that smoking marijuana may or may not have on any given individual. It's disconcerting to me that this is always the line of defense in these arguments because, in my opinion, these effects are not the most important point in this issue.
The more important, and depressing, point about the overwhelming defense of recreational drug use, be it marijuana or any other drug, is the very issue that there is such a uproarious defense in the first place. I hear people say things such as, "my friends and I have done xxxx drug every single day for five years and we're just fine." In a statement such as this, it becomes pretty obvious to me that it isn't the negative effects of xxxx drug on the speaker that we should be concerned about, but their godawful perception of life without inebriation that is implied.
Perhaps it would be a better reason to legalize recreational drug use for everyone if these drugs were, in fact, deadly. It would be a more nirvanic way out than the noose or razor.
amen, sister!!! jk. but im looking at the sort of political aspect of it. read post. but the indians smoked it, and they never had a problem. i think this is all to the tards who abused it. no matter what though, something is going to be abused. "recreational" drugs are the same thing as alcohol. people get together and chillax w/ a couple of beers. beer is legal. its just the renards who abuse it that makes it get the negative attention.
i think 18 yr olds should be able to drink too. if theyre old enough to fight/die for their country, shouldnt they be allowed to drink? seeing as how i am against both drinking and smoking, i will defend both issues. my personal feelings doesnt effect my opinions. i just wont do it personallyso anyways. thats my opinion, if anyone cares
Oh gods, why? ಥ_ಥ
Methinks so. I'd rather smoke cannabis than regular cigarettes.
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