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    If they did a remake...

    Hey, i've been gone for a while but im back! Back on topic...

    I was just doing some randon searching seeing if there was anything about a FF7 Remake. So before we go into the abstract questions a few facts FF6 came out in 94 for SNES then a rm in 99 for PS1 and in 06 for GBA. So thats 5-12 years, if that were to be used for any sort of schema then FF7 would be hitting its 12 year cycle so a release could be possible. I personally think they would be saving a FF7 remake if and when the series starts flopping (keeping FF7 remake as a trump card so to say). Anyways, lets get on with the thread...

    If they were to make a remake what would you like to see different or to what degree should they be allowed to alter the original game?
    If you think the game is fine as is: is there perhaps somethings you would like to see cleaned up?
    Please feel free to respond even if you have but a few ideas, I would really like to know what people would think about this, and heres some of my ideas...

    +Gameplay Changes+
    -ADD DIFFICULTY OPTIONS (Normal/Hard/INSANE!)
    -Add a menu option to shorten summon time or maybe battle animation in general.
    -Add a Beastiary (can be done in a variety of ways lets just compare to the FF VI remakes either in 2 sets or filled in as you go.)
    -Maybe a little more organization when it comes to Chocobo Racing.
    -I think the additional commands (Steal/Mug/Sense/Toss etc. could be cleaned up and maybe even condensed a little more). I am more than away of 'Master Command,' but I still feel that they could be condensed a little more.
    -Maybe more controler Vibtration.

    *Try to think of little things that were annoying. I know it's easy to get to think the gameplay was perfect, but for those of you who played Kingdom Hearts I and II, just look at the jump there. I was really impressed with how they optimized gameplay and trimmed away a lot of useless stuff from the original.*

    Story Changes
    -More background on Red XIII perhaps or his parents at least.
    -I say do NOT revive Aries -- as much as I hated it, it made the story that much more intense.
    -Try to make a little more sense and personability in the whole Corral incident and between Barett and his old town mates (thinking of Dyne in particular).
    -Make a little more sense about Reeve the turk. I played FF7 like 5-6 times and I still wonder a bit about him.
    -Find Marlene and Aeries mom before that final video to give some more character development.
    -Add Vincent and Yuffie to the final video if they are found.
    -Definatly alot more on Zack.
    -And what about a Jenova perspective -- there should be like where Cloud has Jenova flashbacks or something. That would be cool to see Jenova fighting Ancients or something.

    Don't know where this stands
    -Update the graphics? What I mean by this is get rid of most of the block shapping but I don't know what you guys might think about this. It goes hand and hand with FF7, but if they did a good job of smoothing it out would you really miss it?

    That's it for now, I would like to know what people think. Let a few of my ideas serve as some examples, I can add more as time goes on.


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    I agree with some of your ideas such as having the option to make summons shorter

    i also think that.........

    clean up the graphics a bit but only mainly for the characters
    add vincent and yuffie in fmvs if you find them
    keep the battle system as it is
    Make Tseng as a boss battle somewhere,even if he is just added into one of the existing battles
    a little bit more of Reeve and Scarlet but not too much
    more sidequests
    more about zack and the past but make it optional, also make it so they are harder to find, more secretive:rolleyes2
    make us work a bit harder to get the characters ultimate weapons
    add in so you have to fight diamand weapon at junon,even if it is easy as ultimate weapon it would be fun
    dont edit the mistakes like "this guy are sick" because thats a memorable moment

    thats about it, welcome back by the way

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    Go to the board and write 100 times:

    I will check other threads before posting my own.

    Then take into account what Squeenix said about animating Cait Sith's giant toy mog, and also the thought og the gay bath house scene in AC graphics.

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    I could understand maybe wanting to have ff7 in better graphics. But messing with anything but the graphics would be raping a clasic.... sorry but it would be.

    I know the game FF7 isnt perfect, but its still good. Why not leave it to rest in peace?


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    the only thing i'd really want besides better graphics is that battle music to be abolished, there's nothing i hate more in a game than walking across the world map enjoying the music soaking in the atmosphere then BAM! loud annoying battle music, or during a somber moment that's followed by a big fight, you have the nice sad music then as soon as the enemy shows, it's back to that blaring annoying music again to ruin the mood, at least on FF XII they got that right and did away with the Battle Music as far as i can tell, and when i played it i was like "now this is how it should be no radical changes in music just cuz you're in a fight", honestly the sudden changes in music (especialy the onslaught of battle theme) kill the atmosphere for me... i have felt this way about this subject since i first played FF VII when it first came out, and honestly wish all games would lose the intrusive battle themes... this is only for standard battles not Boss Battles as Boss Fights seem to have good battle thems tied directly to them...
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    They didnt really remake ff6 they just ported it to other platforms with some retranslation, so it was pretty much just really easy to do and a quick way to earn a few extra Yen.

    Remaking the ff7 however with better graphics would take a considerably longer time, cost alot more money and alot more effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReloadPsi View Post
    Go to the board and write 100 times:

    I will check other threads before posting my own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elly View Post
    the only thing i'd really want besides better graphics is that battle music to be abolished, there's nothing i hate more in a game than walking across the world map enjoying the music soaking in the atmosphere then BAM! loud annoying battle music, or during a somber moment that's followed by a big fight, you have the nice sad music then as soon as the enemy shows, it's back to that blaring annoying music again to ruin the mood, at least on FF XII they got that right and did away with the Battle Music as far as i can tell, and when i played it i was like "now this is how it should be no radical changes in music just cuz you're in a fight", honestly the sudden changes in music (especialy the onslaught of battle theme) kill the atmosphere for me... i have felt this way about this subject since i first played FF VII when it first came out, and honestly wish all games would lose the intrusive battle themes... this is only for standard battles not Boss Battles as Boss Fights seem to have good battle thems tied directly to them...
    Hmm,personally i don't think it could work.I can't imagine walking in a field,listening at a mellow theme,then fight a random battle with the same mellow theme.It really depends on what kind of emotion the main (world) theme is expressing and if it fits with the general mood of the characters at that particular time in the story.
    For example,i liked what they did in FFX when the group was heading to Zanarkad and the main theme continued playing through the battles,but i would hate it if at Calm lands the same music continued through the battles.What i'm trying to say is that it could work only for some special moments in the game but not at all times.
    FFXII didn't have random battles so the composer had this in mind from the start when he composed the world themes and that's why it fitted so nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReloadPsi View Post
    Go to the board and write 100 times:

    I will check other threads before posting my own.

    Then take into account what Squeenix said about animating Cait Sith's giant toy mog, and also the thought og the gay bath house scene in AC graphics.
    This thread is more what should be changed IF they did a remake rather that IF they are going to do a remake or not. I believe that if they were to do a remake they would need to set up a forum or something similar to deal with fan input. I'm just trying to see what are some of the things people would want to see, IF a remake were to occur, back on topic...

    I'm surpised no1 jumped at the Difficulty Idea -- I fellt that with very few exceptions (Temple of the Ancients is the only thing that ever gave me a hard time) that the game was kind of easy. I'm gonna go back to FF6 as an example; I was really impressed with the little features they added to the game (4 new summons, Dragons Den, cleaning out somethings). Granted it would take much more effort and consideration but I think the same could be done to FF7. Again just wondering what other Final Fans are thinking about this.

    One thing I remembered, maybe a little more clarifcation on what exactly happened to Nibelheim -- More info on the Shin-ra cover up with all paid people pretending to be the town's people? And what about the REAL Cloud back then -- there could be a little more info or flashbacks about that, maybe something eluding to a father figure (Was his mom the town whore who just got knocked up? I donno . As I stated earlier I think they would keep a FF7 remake as a trump card when and IF they do it.

    I could see it now the Square executives all sitting around the table...'Gentlemen our stock has gone down 30%, we need to pull out the trump card.' The rest of the board gasps in shock as the start to mutter to each other. The vice president and president both pull out a little key off their keychain, insert them into the control pannel and turn it at the same time. The middle of the table opens and inside is a little Subway napkin with coffiee stains on it, on in it written is 'Plan B: FF7 Remake.' "BEHOLD, the holy parchment' says the president...or something like that.


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    IF they did a remake, the only thing I'd want is a localization that doesn't suck. I started playing through again a while ago and I had honestly forgotten how much the localization sucked. It makes Advent Children look like Shakespeare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUsualSuspect View Post
    I'm surpised no1 jumped at the Difficulty Idea -- I fellt that with very few exceptions (Temple of the Ancients is the only thing that ever gave me a hard time) that the game was kind of easy. I'm gonna go back to FF6 as an example; I was really impressed with the little features they added to the game (4 new summons, Dragons Den, cleaning out somethings). Granted it would take much more effort and consideration but I think the same could be done to FF7. Again just wondering what other Final Fans are thinking about this.
    This does make perfect sense as there's been plenty of extra crap thrown into the first six games.

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    Makes Aeris death optinal or do not even put her there if she is going to die anyway.
    You are just leveling up a character for nothing.
    Kind of pointless if ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion4444 View Post
    Makes Aeris death optinal or do not even put her there if she is going to die anyway.
    You are just leveling up a character for nothing.
    Kind of pointless if ask me.
    If they took out her death, the game would lose most of what little emotional impact it had. If you don't want to level her for nothing then don't use her. Besides, character levels periodically average out anyway so it doesn't really matter.

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    Anyway isnt death fictional or real supose to show inconveniance? Her death illustrated so many points, and made Sethirith all that more evil


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUsualSuspect View Post
    +Gameplay Changes+
    -ADD DIFFICULTY OPTIONS (Normal/Hard/INSANE!)
    -Add a menu option to shorten summon time or maybe battle animation in general.
    -Add a Beastiary (can be done in a variety of ways lets just compare to the FF VI remakes either in 2 sets or filled in as you go.)
    -Maybe a little more organization when it comes to Chocobo Racing.
    -I think the additional commands (Steal/Mug/Sense/Toss etc.) could be cleaned up and maybe even condensed a little more.
    I am more than away of 'Master Command,' I don't know what this means
    but I still feel that they could be condensed a little more.
    -Maybe more controler Vibration.

    Story Changes
    -More background on Red XIII perhaps or his parents at least. Did Red have a mother?
    -I say do NOT revive Aerith -- as much as I hated it, it made the story that much more intense.
    -Try to make a little more sense and personability in the whole Corel incident and between Barret and his old town mates (thinking of Dyne in particular).
    -Make a little more sense about Reeve the turk. I played FF7 like 5-6 times and I still wonder a bit about him. Reeve was a Turk?
    -Find Marlene and Aerith's mom before that final video to give some more character development.
    -Add Vincent and Yuffie to the final video if they are found. Too late. Their absence was explained in DoC as an attempt at evacuating Midgar. They could be added to other FMVs though.
    -Definitely more on Zack.
    -And what about a Jenova perspective -- there should be stuff like where Cloud has Jenova flashbacks or something. That would be cool to see Jenova fighting Ancients or something.

    Don't know where this stands
    -Update the graphics? What I mean by this is get rid of most of the block shapping but I don't know what you guys might think about this. It goes hand and hand with FF7, but if they did a good job of smoothing it out would you really miss it?
    I really think the dialogue can be better orchestrated.
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    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
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    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
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    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

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    - Better graphics and music(remixes of the original)
    - Add Vincent and Yuffie to the main story, not only as optional characters.
    - New cutsecenes and FMVs with cool fight scenes
    - Change everything needed to connect the game with the Compilation.
    - A fight against Tseng
    - Make the SOLDIERs being bosses, not just normal enemies.
    - Keep the world map!

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