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    i hate infinity! it makes my head hurt. too many possibilities. i like intergers ina givin set. you always know a definite answer
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    I'll tell you what I hate. Imaginary numbers. You cannot take the square root of a negative number. If you must make up a number by taking the square root of a negative number, even if the end result is a real number, it is not a valid answer because imaginary numbers don't exist. My brother is a math teacher and refuses to teach imaginary numbers for many of the same reasons I deny their existence.

    I also want to know how the hell we came up with negative numbers. As if you can have less than zero. I have three apples, and you take four of my apples. How many apples do I have left? That's a bogus problem. I didn't have enough apples for you to take four.

    Someone once told me negative numbers were introduced with debt. But when you're in debt, you don't have a negative amount of money. You owe a positive amount of money.

    So, in conclusion, negative and imaginary numbers are bull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoTifa View Post
    i hate infinity! it makes my head hurt. too many possibilities. i like intergers ina givin set. you always know a definite answer
    There are an infinite number of integers. Deal with it. Infinity is probably one of your best friends, because it can often be thrown out. Working with integers doesn't always guarantee an integer answer.

    If for instance, say I wanted to find the Critical Points of a function given in a set interval:
    f(x) = 4x<sup>3</sup> - 6x<sup>2</sup> + 5
    In the given interval [0, 10]

    Those are all integers. Does that make this problem necessarily easy? Do you even know what Calculus is? Because at this point in math, the necessity of a real number as an answer as opposed to an integer is a null point.

    Bonus points if anyone can figure it out. Shouldn't be terribly difficult; just Power Rule it.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ceej View Post
    I'll tell you what I hate. Imaginary numbers. You cannot take the square root of a negative number.

    So, in conclusion, negative and imaginary numbers are bull.
    Sure you can. What do you think i is for? What about polar coordinates? The very teaching of math is for the purpose of learning Calculus; if not, then at least Trigonometry. I'd like to see you do electricity and magnetism problems without imaginary numbers. Math may be mostly made up, but I'd like to see you do any better.

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    i wil create i system in math, and it will be revolutionary and used world wide! ha! no calc involved

    when we did imaginary numbers in algebra 2 i was feeling rebeleous and didnt do the hw. she asked where your hw and i said well, with imginary number you have to have imaginary paper to do your imaginary homework on. she gave me a "special test" the next day, but i still aced it loser your tactics fail! you taught me no lesson mwahahahahahha
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ceej View Post
    I'll tell you what I hate. Imaginary numbers. You cannot take the square root of a negative number. If you must make up a number by taking the square root of a negative number, even if the end result is a real number, it is not a valid answer because imaginary numbers don't exist. My brother is a math teacher and refuses to teach imaginary numbers for many of the same reasons I deny their existence.

    I also want to know how the hell we came up with negative numbers. As if you can have less than zero. I have three apples, and you take four of my apples. How many apples do I have left? That's a bogus problem. I didn't have enough apples for you to take four.

    Someone once told me negative numbers were introduced with debt. But when you're in debt, you don't have a negative amount of money. You owe a positive amount of money.

    So, in conclusion, negative and imaginary numbers are bull.
    Gosh I hope you never apply for a loan or a credit card!

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    This is why I hate math...


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ceej View Post
    I'll tell you what I hate. Imaginary numbers. You cannot take the square root of a negative number. If you must make up a number by taking the square root of a negative number, even if the end result is a real number, it is not a valid answer because imaginary numbers don't exist. My brother is a math teacher and refuses to teach imaginary numbers for many of the same reasons I deny their existence.

    I also want to know how the hell we came up with negative numbers. As if you can have less than zero. I have three apples, and you take four of my apples. How many apples do I have left? That's a bogus problem. I didn't have enough apples for you to take four.

    Someone once told me negative numbers were introduced with debt. But when you're in debt, you don't have a negative amount of money. You owe a positive amount of money.

    So, in conclusion, negative and imaginary numbers are bull.
    Ice is 0 degreees celcius
    Negative numbers are useless according to you,
    So liquid nitrogen is the same temperature as Ice?
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    I hate you. *brain asplodeses*

    Math = bad. That's the only formula you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooglebunni608 View Post
    I hate you. *brain asplodeses*

    Math = bad. That's the only formula you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ceej View Post
    I'll tell you what I hate. Imaginary numbers. You cannot take the square root of a negative number. If you must make up a number by taking the square root of a negative number, even if the end result is a real number, it is not a valid answer because imaginary numbers don't exist. My brother is a math teacher and refuses to teach imaginary numbers for many of the same reasons I deny their existence.

    I also want to know how the hell we came up with negative numbers. As if you can have less than zero. I have three apples, and you take four of my apples. How many apples do I have left? That's a bogus problem. I didn't have enough apples for you to take four.

    Someone once told me negative numbers were introduced with debt. But when you're in debt, you don't have a negative amount of money. You owe a positive amount of money.

    So, in conclusion, negative and imaginary numbers are bull.
    Ice is 0 degreees celcius
    Negative numbers are useless according to you,
    So liquid nitrogen is the same temperature as Ice?
    He'd obviously use Kelvins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rengori View Post
    Putting it to the negative infinity power will make it larger.
    Don't think so.
    10^3=1000
    10^-3=.001
    Multiplying by ten to a negative exponent makes the number smaller. Therefore...
    10^-infinity=0.0000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000ooooooooooooooo..........
    [Infinity is really big, I don't want to type the whole thing out. Skipping a bit.]
    ..........ooooooooooooooo0000000000000001


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    Quote Originally Posted by Værn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rengori View Post
    Putting it to the negative infinity power will make it larger.
    Don't think so.
    10^3=1000
    10^-3=.001
    Multiplying by ten to a negative exponent makes the number smaller. Therefore...
    10^-infinity=0.0000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000ooooooooooooooo..........
    [Infinity is really big, I don't want to type the whole thing out. Skipping a bit.]
    ..........ooooooooooooooo0000000000000001
    Or you could just call it <i>1/x<sup>∞</sup></i>.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ceej View Post
    So, in conclusion, negative and imaginary numbers are bull.
    Ice is 0 degreees celcius
    Negative numbers are useless according to you,
    So liquid nitrogen is the same temperature as Ice?
    No. The Celcius system is flawed due to its using numbers which don't exist. As blackmage_nuke so kindly put it, if it weren't for bogus numbers being made up, we'd all use Kelvin.

    Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
    Gosh I hope you never apply for a loan or a credit card!
    I don't have negative money. I owe positive money. There is no such thing as less than zero. It can't exist. It's impossible. I challenge you to prove me wrong.

    And Tavrobel, I just spent a whole paragraph explaining how i doesn't exist and why and you turn around and tell me it does because what is it for? It makes no sense. The only reason i was invented was to solve equations which have no valid answer. Well, if you have to make up numbers which don't exist to get an answer, you have no answer. My brother, as I've previously stated, is a reputable mathematics teacher and refuses to teach imaginary numbers for many of the same reasons I refuse to acknowledge their existence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ceej View Post
    And Tavrobel, I just spent a whole paragraph explaining how i doesn't exist and why and you turn around and tell me it does because what is it for? It makes no sense. The only reason i was invented was to solve equations which have no valid answer. Well, if you have to make up numbers which don't exist to get an answer, you have no answer. My brother, as I've previously stated, is a reputable mathematics teacher and refuses to teach imaginary numbers for many of the same reasons I refuse to acknowledge their existence.
    Actually <i>i</i> was postulated to correct the fact that there exist equations with complex roots that aren't solvable in the real numbers. Because R is flawed and is a subset of C, C is a more complete (not more flawed) number set. I'd also like to point out that no negative number n exists such that sqrt(n) is a member of R.

    I don't know what maths your brother teaches, but if he tells his students that complex or negative numbers don't exist he had better have a watertight alternative set of number theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ceej View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
    Gosh I hope you never apply for a loan or a credit card!
    I don't have negative money. I owe positive money. There is no such thing as less than zero. It can't exist. It's impossible. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
    If your money owed is positive then the money you have in the bank is negative, you can't multiply one side by something and not the other

    net=owed+owned, and if that's not a negative owed, then everyone would be a lot richer than they were. You can't use debt to pay anyone

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