I like them....alot. Tim Burton knew how to capture what Batman is, dark. He was able to get a great cast in both movies which I thought helped the movies alot, Devito's and Walkers acting was much underappreciated in Batman Returns.

If anything, whether they were good movies or not, they were the most Batman out of all the Batman movies, for that I give Burton alot of respect. Batman is not about kung fu dojo's, big military tanks and "realism" for all you lot who think Batman Begins was the best Batman movie.