Any other Rpgs? (Yeah, i know, sacrilige)

[Bolivar]

Sega-
Phantasy Star IV
Shining Force I
Shining Force II
Sword of Vermilion

and now I'm going to try not to get laughed out of here.

Why would you be laughed at? Those are all great games. I'd put Phantasy Star II ahead of IV but both are great nonetheless. But an RPG that I think topples both on the Megadrive was Shadowrun, one of the best 16-bit RPG's in my opinion. Just make sure never to touch its ugly twin on the SNES, which was a horrible game ( shame people only remember that one ) The Megadrive didnt have alot of RPG's but the ones it had were pretty special.

Here are a few more suggestions off the top of my head.....

Dark Chronicle ( Dark Cloud 2 if your in the states )
Grandia
Xenogears ( leave all that Xenosaga crap alone )
Terranigma
Illusion of Gaia
Record of Lodoss War
Alundra

Well in my experience, when people talk about 16-bit RPGs, they're usually only talking about the SNES (especially on the internet). Alot of them don't know that SEGA had alot more than Sonic going on.

But yo...and I mean YO... Shadow Run was THE SH*T!!! I just downloaded the rom so I'm probably gonna get back into it soon, and I gotta agree, that's one of the best 16-bit games I've ever played, let alone RPG (i'm sure some would say it's not).

And Hazzard, great choice on SF. I can't tell you exactly how long it is, but it's definately a classic. Be sure to read a guide though on the subject of promotion because i messed up a save file or two doing it wrong.

[Hazzard]

Shining Force is the best 16-bit RPG I've played ever. I've already promoted anyone when possible, I'm struggling with training up a few members: Zukia, Bleu and some others. I might just settle with a final party, the best Knight is definitely Valkar, Mae as second. Diane's a good Archer alongside the shooter guy. It's always good to have a birdman (male one) Zyla (Werewolf), Tao (Wizard) and a decisive Gladiator, such as Gort (apply an agility ring to him and he works wonders later on). The Card Master is vital to amplifying my guys to the next level., and Domingo is so cute, he also packs major heat with magic!

Hey, Bolivar. Reckon Shadow Run is better than SF?

[Karellen]

SHAME ON ALL OF YOU! HOW COULD YOU FORGET POKEMON!!!!!!!

Because

A. It's not an RPG

Pokemon is more of an RPG then most JRPGs are RPGs.

[Raebus]

Its definetly an RPG, just because you seemingly have a vendetta against it doesn't make it any less of an RPG.

[Bolivar]

Shining Force is the best 16-bit RPG I've played ever. I've already promoted anyone when possible, I'm struggling with training up a few members: Zukia, Bleu and some others. I might just settle with a final party, the best Knight is definitely Valkar, Mae as second. Diane's a good Archer alongside the shooter guy. It's always good to have a birdman (male one) Zyla (Werewolf), Tao (Wizard) and a decisive Gladiator, such as Gort (apply an agility ring to him and he works wonders later on). The Card Master is vital to amplifying my guys to the next level., and Domingo is so cute, he also packs major heat with magic!

Hey, Bolivar. Reckon Shadow Run is better than SF?

I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it, it's a pretty epic game.

As far as to which Shadow Run or Shining Force is the better, I would have to say it depends on the mood; they're both very different. Shining Force is your linear, traditional SRPG with the traditional fantasy setting while Shadow Run is a very open-ended game with a cyber-punk setting. Think FFVII Midgar except ALOT darker. There's an overall plot, but you can really do whatever you want, taking on "runs" in different parts of the city (could be anything from delivering a package to doing a hit for hire) and the gameplay is you actually running around on the screen shooting/fighting/casting spells along with any characters you recruit. Eventually you get to other cities and advance the plot. It was originally a paper-and-pen RPG like Dungeons & Dragons and I heard they're making an MMORPG for it now.

Whichever one you end up preferring, I would defintely recommend checking out Shining Force II when you're done with those.

[Hazzard]

Shining Force II, huh? Is it on GBA and is it better than the first edition?

[Crossblades]

Shining Force II, huh? Is it on GBA and is it better than the first edition?

The GBA version is the remake of the first Shining Force. I own it and it truly rocks! =)

[Vincent, Thunder God]

Morrowind and Oblivion all the way. They're very different from the FF series, but extremely good.

[crono_logical]

You can't go wrong with any game from the Tales Of series

Ar Tonelico's an unusual one I picked up recently. Although the battles are easier than your average RPG what with being able to seemingly charge up your songs (or spells) almost indefinitely - though not as ridiculously easy as FF:Mystic Quest - the way you need to interact with some of the characters for storyline is quite unique and interesting

[Cloud88]

I commend your tastes that you've played the Shadow Hearts games too.

Thanks. Nearly all of my friends couldn't be bothered but, man, they're missing out.
Thanks you guys for those games. I'll see if i can find any of those. Anybody played Koudelka, the prequel to Shadow Hearts? I can't beat the final boss' third form. It keeps healing!

And does anybody know when White Knight Story is coming out? That looks awesome!

[Polnareff]

Any Breath of Fire game (yes, even Dragon Quarter)
Any Star Ocean game
Grandia 1 and 2

And that's about all the ones I'm willing to suggest right now. Breath of Fire III in particular has great characterization and atmosphere, IMO, and so does BoF IV.

[Shlup]

Any Star Ocean or Zelda and you're golden. They're better than FFs anyway.

[Crossblades]

Any Star Ocean or Zelda and you're golden. They're better than FFs anyway.

Careful. Not too many people here consider Zelda an RPG

[Jiro]

Is it? I don't really consider Zelda a RPG. But I would like to also say Suikoden 5 is great fun. And the Tales of series is mad fun too.
Fire Emblem if you like more strategy. But thats me.

[Realm25]

VAY for the Sega CD is absolutely amazing. If you have the means, I highly recommend it.