Final Fantasy is the button presses? I always thought the fun part of RPGs was coming up with the right strategy for whatever situation you're in. Your gambits are you seeing a common situation and deciding to react to it the same way every time. You've already put in your command before the battle begins. What's so great about having to do the same thing over and over again?Originally Posted by ReloadPsi
Now I see why everyone hates sidescrolling platformers these days in favour of cut-scene filled bore-a-thons: They die a lot mindlessly running into pits, not realising that once they jump over the first one they still have to manually jump over all the others. In other words, Super Mario Bros. was the same situation over and over; jump over things that are in the way (and occasionally ON them), so that game would've surely been better with a "Jump" Gambit then. Man, no wonder video games aren't taken seriously by any society outside of Japan.Final Fantasy is the button presses? I always thought the fun part of RPGs was coming up with the right strategy for whatever situation you're in. Your gambits are you seeing a common situation and deciding to react to it the same way every time. You've already put in your command before the battle begins. What's so great about having to do the same thing over and over again?
Final Fantasy is the button presses? Yes. Final Fantasy is a video game, and video games are the button presses. See the joypad? It has buttons. You press them to play. If you want to watch battles and do nothing while it all happens on its own then there are films for those... epic movies about cheesy fantasy wars would be ideal for you; they all play out similarly and you can watch people react the same way to common situations (fight and defeat the villain).
Gambits are only a small part of why I dislike the game (as I could turn them off and ignore them), I don't know why you're taking it upon yourself to have such a disproportionately big a go at me about it.
Last edited by ReloadPsi; 12-23-2007 at 01:11 AM.
RPGs are completely different from platformers. Pressing the button to input a command takes no skill whatsoever. You don't just press A and magically appear on the other side of a hole. In Final Fantasy, selecting fight does one of two things. Either it hits the enemy with a physical attack, or it doesn't. There is no challenge there. There's no reason to bother with it every time. Might as well let it be done automatically.
Also, if you're going to get upset every time someone disagrees with you and raises valid points as to why, you should probably get off the internet.
Actually what upset me was that you made the grossly incorrect oversimplification that I "didn't know how to play FFXII" which was completely not true, so I explained it and that didn't sparkle with you. In truth I had to sell the game on to pay living costs, that's why I never finished it unfortunately. I played the game without Gambits and in terms of combat and level grinding tried to have an absolute blast, but as I originally said, I found the overall experience dull and lifeless, and with Gambits on or off that wasn't gonna change.
If you're gonna try and read between the lines in people's posts and find hidden meanings that aren't there, you should probably get off the internet. Or go hang with Future Esthar. You might come up with some pretty amusing theories on what is really being said in Jesswee's posts.
Last edited by ReloadPsi; 12-23-2007 at 01:35 AM.
You're the one getting your underwear in a bunch over nothing, not me. Calm down.
How does that not leave the impression that you don't know how to use gambits? You heavily implied that you were using gambits but it made the game harder.People consider "No Gambits" to be one of the challenge. Newsflash: If you turn them off, the game is actually easier because now they smeggin' well do as they're told!
So I went on to explain that the post was poorly worded and misleading, but as it had been responded to already, editing it was pointless. What I was trying to put across was that Gambits actually impose some pretty weird limitations on your characters that you can round by simply manually inputting the commands.
"People consider No Gambits to be a challenge" was a go at people who consider it to be a challenge. That's like saying ATB on Active instead of Wait is a challenge; it's just a very simple in-game option that makes a minor difference.
Yeah. Then I didn't say you were doing it wrong again. You're also acting like I'm attacking you personally or something, and that also never happened. Chill out.
Wow, that's some trivial stuff to bicker over.
I liked where the gambit system was heading, but it was far too simplified towards the end -- if they were to expand on it, it would have been extremely fun, imo.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
Everything I want to say has been said by somebody somewhere, but here goes anyways:
The battle system was brilliant. I loved it. It was so smooth and fun, and not tedious at all. Gambits didn't take any of the fun out of it (i agree with roto), which was a worry to me at first, and there were still genuine scares... like when an elemental floated too close and you had to run the @#$%^ away.
The graphics... yea, I don't even have to say anything <3
The characters were individually fine, though Penelo and Fraan seemed void of personality to me, and yea, I didn't care as much about them as I did with other FFs, but there was *some* hope...
The story... it was eh. I don't need a sweeping love story at all, but I just didn't really care... the threat of war seemed far away and things seemed far too cheery for me to worry. I'm all for political intrigue... as long as it brings the drama, which FFXII really didn't, in the end. There were threads that I got excited about, but they just ended, or weren't as interesting as I expected them to be. It had some major potential, but there just seemed to be a disconnect between the politics and people of the story. That was my biggest problem with it-- bland.
IMO this was a very good game, it just wasn't a good FINAL FANTASY game. It should have been a sequel of sorts to Vagrant Story, not part of the main FF series. I really enjoyed this game, but I was ultimately disappointed because I was expecting something along the lines FFVII-FFX.
Um, it's actually pretty easy. the camera in games like VII would move, zoom in/out depending on what kind of action is taking place. In games like XII, it's simply staying in one spot while you watch the same animation take place over and over again. The battles in VII looked like you were controlling a movie... for the battles in XII, you could move the camera, sure, but it always stayed the same distance and you were simply watching the same thing from a different point of view. Have you played VII or XII???
Agreed 100%
The wasted potential!!! It pissed me off
Yup, same here
Me and my kids have dragon eggs:
Gambits is unique, I don't see how is that wrong. The way how I see Gambits is like it's making you feel more comfortable in certain situations.
Because they're boring and make things way to easy.
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Only slightly easier than inputting those obvious commands yourself.Because they're boring and make things way to easy.
Also, watching the same action a million times in VII was no more interesting because there were a few different camera angles.
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