And Shakespeare just wrote some plays. Doesn't stop people from debating their meaning and merit as literary works.Originally Posted by ff is da best
I'm not going to bother debating FFIX again (though going back to your sales argument one last time; Ico is one of the best games on the PS2, but it sold 50,000 copies. Sales mean nothing, especially when people are making threads in the FFIX forum saying they passed the game up because the main character had a tail
^ See this is the reason I didn't reply once again. Your entire rebuttal was ridiculous and you're somehow calling mine opinion when it's really not. The only part I gave what is purely opinion on is what I actually liked about the game.
Then you said my problem is: I think you're factually wrong - yet you say this from a point of where you are forcing that you are inarguably correct. It makes sense to me I guess; I knew I wasn't arguing with an adult by any means especially after your last tirade where you blast that despite your age you are superior blah blah and I have no idea what I'm talking about. Who's using and abusing opinion now?
Like I said, I have no further response on the subject of whether FFIX is not the best FF or not. You are clearly a devoted fanboy with an FFIX name, FFIX signature using FFIX quotes and defending your love to the death. I was a teenager and knew everything 5 years ago too.
The fact is nothing will come from this argument because it's a fact a person like yourself could not ever admit any sort of defeat much less consider an opposing view be it opinion or fact. You're a young, ignorant person that through the safety of the internet exhibits a very juvenile sort of self-boasting of intelligence and the 2nd definition of bravado.
By the way if you're less than flattered about my seemingly presumptuous take on your character, don't be. I've spent years studying people and it will be my 9-5 job to know and understand them very well. So far you've proven me almost psychic but I'll leave the self flattery to you.), though I am going to back Vivisteiner up on a point here that you are obviously missing in this whole argument which he has tried to convey multiple times.
Everything you've claimed to be a flaw with FFIX is personal opinion, yet you pass it off as fact. You seem under the belief that because you found some reviews and some other people who agree with your take that that somehow means it's a fact. Well I think Titanic was a huge pile of crap, but it won a lot of Oscars and a lot of people seem to like it, yet by your logic, since I know a lot of people who agree with my take on it it must be a fact that it sucks.
You take this high and mighty attitude that you are somehow more mature than anyone arguing in favour of FFIX, despite not being mature enough to realize that everyone has an opinion on a game and they can differ without necessarily being wrong. The same with books, movies, TV shows, etc. And when Vivisteiner tries to explain that point, you resort to name calling by saying he's immature and must be a child. You may try to disguise it in statements that sound halfway intelligent, but you're still being as immature as you claim he is when you do it. You argue that no one is bringing rebuttal with any substance behind it to counter your points, yet you never had any substance behind your points to begin with. You make statements like the game lacked a strong main character or villain, but never say why you thought Zidane and Kuja were weak characters. You say the side-quests aren't rewarding yet offer no reasoning behind this, even after Vivisteiner points out that you get much of the best equipment in the game from some of these sidequests. How does that make them unrewarding?
You see, I can see his problem with your argument; you claimed that what you said about FFIX was indisputable fact, when it obviously can't be. FFIX is a creative work and open to interpretation. Obviously yours differs from mine and Vivisteiners. Unlike you though I can at least accept that you don't like aspects of it (even if I do enjoy arguing about the points you bring up). Perhaps Vivisteiner said some things in the heat of the moment that he shouldn't have, but you've also proven yourself quite capable of the same thing you accuse him of.
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