Rianna's umberella song the longest no1 single of the 21st century well in england. how embarising !
Rianna's umberella song the longest no1 single of the 21st century well in england. how embarising !
I like Fallout Boy and Fergie too :sad:
Another song I remembered, And will be hated for saying this,
That "Don't worry, Be Happy" song.
God I hate it so much.
The Jonas Brothers piss me off to no end. Aslo Avril, but thats just because I'm from Napanee.
did I say rap... oh I did
Jonas bros changing a song just barely(ill kill them for kids of the smurfing future)
Originally Posted by Jimsour
I like Macy, she's cool D:
I know the one you mean. It's quite relaxing, I like the guitar part.There are a few songs I dislike, but the only one that "pisses me off" is one that I believe is called "Bang Bang" - I don't know who sings it, but it's a woman. Now, apart from being sung in a complete monotone, the "story" of the song is that when she was a kid, this boy would pretend to shoot her (his gun probably didn't contain any ammo, because he shouted "bang! bang!" when he did so), and years later when they are adults (probably married but I'm not sure) they talk about when "[he] shot [her] down". It's just... It disturbs me this song... All that happened is that some kid pretended to shoot her, and she's trembling the lyrics out like she's singing about when she was molested or something. This song, really gets to me...
That abomination butchered the original.
Gffuhughjhnnnhhln////......
Plenty more, but I feel naseous enough.
I hear comments like this all the time. The only radio stations I listen to are ones that play classic rock because all the other ones play crap music. Now, here me out (call me ignorant will you), as what I'm about to say may shock your little brain. If I do not like what I hear on the radio, how do you suppose I hear it? Random music searches on the internet? Download random songs and listen to them? Read up on bands other people think is good (most likely mainstream)? Should I delve into the underground scene which I'm not even sure how to access. I did post 'pretty much anything post-date'. It's not all bad but just about all of it is. I listen to old music, good music.
Perhaps you go out searching for music but it just isn't that large a part of my life. It mostly provides background noise. Besides the couple bands I like and the odd single I enjoy just about all new music past the new millenium is trash. I'm not even sure how people can like it, let alone pay to listen to it. Music became more about image, cool and weird sounds and computer editting than the process of creating music. I give heavy metal bands huge props for being talent musicians while I may not enjoy the music. 95% of the music today is generic. Caring more about music videos and DVD sales than a good record. How many new bands are able to stay afloat for more than two albums? Even bands that were large successes (Puddle of Mudd, Default, Staind) in first album releases then fall by the wayside. The only bands that can are older bands, (Green Day, Radiohead, Chilli Peppers, Foo Fighters) are able to still do it.
Rap, Pop, Hip-Hop, Dance, Trance, Techno etc. are all basically garbage. Stereotypicals songs, full bass, lame lyrics and primary focus is material items and sexuality. Afterall, why try and create art when you can have bass, a sexy dancer and some rhymes about growing up in the streets and making money and whatever worn theme is being used.
Just because my personal taste doesn't like a majority of the new music does not mean I'm ignorant. I'm sorry I don't venture into the unknown for that genre of music the masses don't know about. That's another thing that pisses me off, since when did this genre battle start? Nu Metal, Black Metal, Speed Metal, Death Metal, Heavy Metal, Thrash Metal, Industrial Metal and some people are quick to correct you if you misplace a band in a wrong genre.
I don't know. Perhaps music nowadays is just over my head and I know how my parents felt listening to my music through adolescence.
You had clearly stated all music, not what you may listen to here and there (or that you meant mainly mainstream). Please do not try to turn this around on me, as you still are ignorant in stating all music is crap past a certain year.I hear comments like this all the time. The only radio stations I listen to are ones that play classic rock because all the other ones play crap music. Now, here me out (call me ignorant will you), as what I'm about to say may shock your little brain. If I do not like what I hear on the radio, how do you suppose I hear it? Random music searches on the internet? Download random songs and listen to them? Read up on bands other people think is good (most likely mainstream)? Should I delve into the underground scene which I'm not even sure how to access. I did post 'pretty much anything post-date'. It's not all bad but just about all of it is. I listen to old music, good music.
Perhaps you go out searching for music but it just isn't that large a part of my life. It mostly provides background noise. Besides the couple bands I like and the odd single I enjoy just about all new music past the new millenium is trash. I'm not even sure how people can like it, let alone pay to listen to it. Music became more about image, cool and weird sounds and computer editting than the process of creating music. I give heavy metal bands huge props for being talent musicians while I may not enjoy the music. 95% of the music today is generic. Caring more about music videos and DVD sales than a good record. How many new bands are able to stay afloat for more than two albums? Even bands that were large successes (Puddle of Mudd, Default, Staind) in first album releases then fall by the wayside. The only bands that can are older bands, (Green Day, Radiohead, Chilli Peppers, Foo Fighters) are able to still do it.
Rap, Pop, Hip-Hop, Dance, Trance, Techno etc. are all basically garbage. Stereotypicals songs, full bass, lame lyrics and primary focus is material items and sexuality. Afterall, why try and create art when you can have bass, a sexy dancer and some rhymes about growing up in the streets and making money and whatever worn theme is being used.
Just because my personal taste doesn't like a majority of the new music does not mean I'm ignorant. I'm sorry I don't venture into the unknown for that genre of music the masses don't know about. That's another thing that pisses me off, since when did this genre battle start? Nu Metal, Black Metal, Speed Metal, Death Metal, Heavy Metal, Thrash Metal, Industrial Metal and some people are quick to correct you if you misplace a band in a wrong genre.
I don't know. Perhaps music nowadays is just over my head and I know how my parents felt listening to my music through adolescence.
There is good music out there, it's not mine or anyone else's fault that you can't be assed looking around for it. And it does not get rid of the fact that it is out there.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
[QUOTE=Jon Thompson;2352500]While there is some truth in what you're saying, the "genre battle" as you call it is helpful with sorting things out. Metal is one of the broadest genres you have, with a lifespan almost 40 years old by now. It's evolved a lot, and the sound of some bands are drastically different than other. Nu-Metal bands like KoRn and Slipknot don't sound anything like Necrophagist or Nile, and have broadly different fanbases.
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
whos' obama?
Yeah, the good music is out there. Problem is it's all been released for over a decade. What makes you think I'm trying to get rid of the fact they're out there. My point isn't that I'm not arsed to look for it, but if mainstream (essentially gneral) music is loved by millions of people and I think 95% of it iswhy I would I look harder for music? There is a reason why artists like The Beatles, Elvis, Elton John, Johnny Cash were all mainstream; because they were great and had large fan bases. There aren't any true artists in mainstream anymore - at least new artists.
You mistake that I'm not assed to look for it - I choose not to. There is thirty years of music before I was born I missed out on and I enjoy it much better than new music. As Charles Manson said in a Family Guy cameo, "If I haven't seen it, it's new to me." A few of my friends love the classics and I get enough new music from old music.
Is that better my ignorant friend? Starting
Now, are you done? Really, your argument is more lacking than mine. Or are you going to continue?
Your argument is void. Want to know why? Because you have made complete assumptions about what I have said in this thread. No, I haven't said anything about my interests and my history and taste in music -- yet you so easily try to judge and guess who I am and what I like. So please, take your socially inept posts else where.
Yeah, the good music is out there. Problem is it's all been released for over a decade. What makes you think I'm trying to get rid of the fact they're out there. My point isn't that I'm not arsed to look for it, but if mainstream (essentially gneral) music is loved by millions of people and I think 95% of it is
You mistake that I'm not assed to look for it - I choose not to. There is thirty years of music before I was born I missed out on and I enjoy it much better than new music. As Charles Manson said in a Family Guy cameo, "If I haven't seen it, it's new to me." A few of my friends love the classics and I get enough new music from old music.
Now, are you done? Really, your argument is more lacking than mine. Or are you going to continue?
I love older music, and there is a bit of newer music that I like. I hate the radio and mainstream crap though. My argument, which you seem to have totally misunderstood, is that you said that "all music past 2005 is crap", which is simply not true, there is still good music coming out these days and it is not my fault that you don't want to look for it -- it does not mean it doesn't exist.
This has nothing to do with what I posted. I never said anything about your taste in music and my feelings about it. What are you on about? Seriously, learn to read posts...Is that better my ignorant friend? Starting
Note: Please do not patronise me with your lame "my friend" comments. It's pathetic in a debate.
Yes, because music is all I have in life. :rolleyes2 Once again, I have never stated anything of the like. You are making things up.
I'm sorry, but I still feel your views on music as a whole to be utterly and completely ignorant. I don't care what your tastes in music are, or that you prefer to read books or watch movies, it does not change this fact.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
Only thirty years? You must be really old.
There is plenty of good music still being made, yes most mainstream music is crap but that has always been the case. Look at a chart listing for the early 60's, it was terrible. I mean Adam Faith!!!!
'All things are subject to interpretation; whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.' - Nietzsche
Your argument is void. Want to know why? Because you have made complete assumptions about what I have said in this thread. No, I haven't said anything about my interests and my history and taste in music -- yet you so easily try to judge and guess who I am and what I like. So please, take your socially inept posts else where.
I love older music, and there is a bit of newer music that I like. I hate the radio and mainstream crap though. My argument, which you seem to have totally misunderstood, is that you said that "all music past 2005 is crap", which is simply not true, there is still good music coming out these days and it is not my fault that you don't want to look for it -- it does not mean it doesn't exist.
This has nothing to do with what I posted. I never said anything about your taste in music and my feelings about it. What are you on about? Seriously, learn to read posts...Is that better my ignorant friend? Starting
Note: Please do not patronise me with your lame "my friend" comments. It's pathetic in a debate.
Yes, because music is all I have in life. :rolleyes2 Once again, I have never stated anything of the like. You are making things up.
I'm sorry, but I still feel your views on music as a whole to be utterly and completely ignorant. I don't care what your tastes in music are, or that you prefer to read books or watch movies, it does not change this fact.
All I'm going to say is.....I assume?
Already you assume I listen to the radio only (I hate the damn radio, unless I'm in a car with no CD and it's often sports talk) from me writing a line on the subject. No reasons to why I think that. You're quick to call me ignorant. I know all kinds of music. I'm partners in a DJ business, just weddings and parties and such, so I hear music from the sixties to last week all in a single night. Most of it is trash and many of the requests are trash. I love the end of the nights when everyone is drunk and wants to listen to old school rock.
Again, you assume this. That I've no background and must be ignorant. Yeah, good job on that one.
You then go on to say that after being exposed and being paid to play all this garbage that I'm ignorant for going searching for the Holy Grail of music. Yes, I did refer to mainstream music because that is what I hear most of the time (besides my friends and their metal obsession) I considering it all to be garbage. Most of it sounds the same, lacks genuity and originality.
Who cares if I say all music past 2005 sucks? We're entitled to opinions and my opinion is educated. My interest in music is small so I don't know a lot of music. You took this so personally when it wasn't even referenced to anyone or anything. In fact it was so vague, I could have been talking about orchestras and bagpipe ballads as well. Almost everything I'VE (key part in a personal opinion, btw) heard it crap. I apoligze I haven't come across this bastion of spectacular music that you have. Is that what you want? My to apologize for my tastes conflicting with yours?
You seemed confused about my inclusion of this. Why would you even open your mouth if you hated the music as well? You'd join on the hate. In my experience that is evidence enough of your tastes being conflicted with.
For example:
Me: Hey, did you see that movie Ghost Rider? I thought it was garbage. Nicholas Cage has gone down the tubes with bad movie after bad movie. From his brilliance in Matchstick Men and Adaptation to this and The Wicker Man? Lame script, performances and effects. Not as bad as Daredevil, Elektra or Hulk but damn close. Scratch that, worse than Hulk. Horrible movie.
You: I agree, it was a very bad movie. BUT YOU ARE IGNORANT IN GHOST RIDER AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY ONLY WATCHING MAINSTREAM, GENERIC HOLLYWOOD MOVIES!!! WATCH DONNIE DARKO IT IS SO UNDERGROUND!!
If you liked ghost rider, the above response would make sense. Perhaps you're an avid fan of the comics and it blinded you of how horrible that movie actually was or you like it because it's so bad it's good (Army of Darkness) or you're the kind of person who walks into Blockbuster and rents Shark Attack 6...
You see, I went off topic, that's how much your argument stirs me up. I started ranting about Ghost Rider and it's horribleness. I hope you didn't like that movie or you're going to think I'm VERY ignorant now.
jeez, for something you started out of nothing this became a big pile of nothing. You tried to guess what I'm like before I ever did with you and while I tried to make my assumptions as vague and mostly for purpose of comparision and example, you seem to actually believe yours.
Sorry for hating Rap, Hip-hop, trance, dance, rave, techo, gangstah rap, punk rock, pop punk, ska, hardcore punk, thrash punk, disco, retro, chick singers, pop singers, boy bands, emo, screamo, theory of a creedleback, Jazz, Blues, all country (cept some Brooks, Cash and Jackson) and a dozen other genres I don't care to think of. Does that mean I hate all songs in these genres? No, I might like some of them but generally I do not. As you can see my musical choices are slim and I'm mainly forced to find old music I don't know of wait for bands I like to produce new albums.
I once enjoyed rap and the puddle of mudd/default/nickelback music of turn of the decade. I just can't listen anymore. Like the Maple Leafs and how I can't cheer until the ownership makes some serious changes. I'll simply hold out for something better and wait for this horrible phase in music to end. Now I know how my dad felt having to deal with disco in the seventies...gawd.
When it comes to music I don't care about the image or the lifestyle it represents (though most people, conciously or subconciously do) while I just listen to the music. I listen to the lyrics, the way it's sung, the tone of the guitars, the ambient noise. I enjoy music that has meaning and is deep without being whiny or pretentious. Essentially, if my ears don't like the music and my brain doesn't like the lyrics I consider it crap music. Some music as one or the other but the music I really like has both. Songs like 'Comfortably Numb' by Pink Floyd or 'Rocketman' by Elton John.
This makes me think of a quote (paraphrased) I heard Kid Rock say and it rung true to me. "If it sounds good, you'll hear it. If it's packaged right, you'll buy it. But if it's real, you feel it." That's what I look for in music, real. No matter the genre. Most music I know is over produced, plastic music.
Last edited by Jon Thompson; 11-15-2007 at 08:03 AM.
what about that can you not understand? This is about specific songs not genres.
That's thousands of thousands of songs and I do not have the time. Much easier to lump into categories to display my hate. Much like how I hate fantasy but love Lord of the Rings. I never meant for it to be genre hate but apparently I'm ignorant so sorry.
With spelling like that, a crappy song by Rhianna being number one should be the least of your concerns.how embarising !
All I can say is wow, you wasted your time writing all that dribble out, that generally doesn't express anything I was talking about? I don't care what history you have in music, and I am not basing my judgement on your views on whether you do have history in music.
I am not assuming anything, I am working with the information you are giving me. You simply said you don't want to have to "look" for music, yet you are complaining that you hate everything you hear these days (whether it'd be the radio, mainstream, or what your friends show you).
You have completely derailed from what I was originally saying. There is good music out there still; but you stated there isn't. You are wrong, as subjective a thing as music can be, you are still wrong to assume all music out there these days is crap (I don't care what genre's you are into, either, that had nothing to do with what I was saying).
No, I wasn't assuming that. I was discussing the topic generally. Learn to read, please.
Uh, ok? I don't care? What does that have to do with anything? Should I boast about my last 5-6 years experience in the industry and bands? Just as a side note, I have found throughout a lot of contacts I've had with DJ's, most of them are arrogant jerks (and honestly suck at what they do). Not to say you are talent less at what you do, but you seem to be coming across rather arrogant and jerk-like. :P
No, I wasn't assuming that. Where are you pulling this from?
I still don't get why you are derailing from what was originally said? I don't care that you go looking for older music, infact I listen to heaps of older music and I would (under different circumstances) tell you a few bands or artists you may be interested in.
I can still have the opinion that you are ignorant for saying all music past 2005 is crap. Whether it is your opinion or whether you were trying to state a fact. This is because there is still good music out there if you look for it -- once again, it's not my fault you don't want to look for it.
You are entitled to your opinion. The way you had worded it didn't come out as an opinion, but even so I am not taking it personally. The only thing I am taking personally is the fact that you are acting like a jerk towards my own views. So what if I think you are ignorant for having such views? :P
Being vague had nothing to do with what I had said. And perhaps you shouldn't have been vague at all in the first place. It has nothing to do with taste either, I still don't know where you are coming up with these ideas -- I don't care to know what your taste in music is, I've said this a few times already, geez.
What? Why do you keep making things up? I said there's still good music that is coming out, yet there's a lot of crap on the radio and mainstream. How is this conflicting?
Just because I note about present day music, does not mean I don't have the taste and knowledge for music in history.
Well, your example had nothing to do with what has been discussed. And it's your fault for getting so stirred up and going off topic. I don't call someone ignorant because of their taste in things; just when they state something without backing it up substantially.
No I didn't try and guess what you are like (though it has come across very obviously with your posts). I don't even know if you are reading my posts, because you are talking utter crap now.
Uh, since when were we talking about genres? I wasn't, that's for sure.
That's great. I do have similar feelings towards music myself. But, I wasn't getting at anything like this when I responded to your initial post.
Last edited by Rostum; 11-16-2007 at 03:51 AM.
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