i've beaten all of then in fact w/o any trouble.. i have to admit i had trouble with penance, the 1st couple of rounds was hard, but it turned out he was really predictable.. and then i got bored.. i lost count how many times i kickd his petuddi.. but yzmat, boy was he trouble, i mean, you dont have attack reels for advantage, no time to think since its ADB system,no slice and dice, no 99999 damage, jus the good ol fashion 9999, its unbearable! i know there is the reverse skill but hey, i still get pawnd anyway..its not how hard you prepare or get to them, its how hard you fight them when your actually infront of them.. "a new legend is born" at least thats what animax said.. took me hours to beat that thing, took me 30mins,40tops, to beat penance.. but i have to say, its true leveling up is easier than maxing stats in X.. not to mention the already given zodiac spear