Pokemon Mafia - Official Game Thread (On hold)

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

I know what a cop does. You attacked me furiously before you investigated me. That's my point.

And what? you're admitting to being the Lyncher? Then that really settles it. You'll be one of the winners of the game if I'm lynched before you die, so then it's really in everyone's best interest to not lynch me today.

I attacked you before I investigated you because that attack, was to hopefully be able to lynch you without revealing that I'm a cop. If I had suspicion before, and had gone along with that the Mafia would have no reason to believe I'm a cop I would be able to investigate at night while safe.

The whole point of not bieng found out as a cop is, so that you can have more safe nights, which are very needed because alot of times cops just investigate citizens. but I think I got a mafia and not citizien, because you slipped up in the beginning, on top of us getting lucky with butterfree.

There is no way a cop would show himself

[[M] D'Anna]

Kadabra

Why trust Slowpoke right now? Cop is important, if he's telling the truth and we lynch him, we may as well have shot ourselves in the foot.

If Slowpoke is off the table:

How about we lynch someone unactive, and then the REAL cop investigates Slowpoke tonight?

I really don't want to let Slowpoke get away with all of this. That would be very annoying.

How about Bulbasaur? he hasn't even posted yet. Or if you guys are not keen on bumping off inactives, then we could always go for the mysterious bandwagoner Squirtle, who seemed to have little reason to jump on Slowpoke's accusations yesterday.

Yes, I'm willing to go that far because I told you all my role, I told you the truth, and I don't want Slowpoke to get away with killing me off for no reason.

edit:

I attacked you before I investigated you because that attack, was to hopefully be able to lynch you without revealing that I'm a cop. If I had suspicion before, and had gone along with that the Mafia would have no reason to believe I'm a cop I would be able to investigate at night while safe.

The whole point of not bieng found out as a cop is, so that you can have more safe nights, which are very needed because alot of times cops just investigate citizens. but I think I got a mafia and not citizien, because you slipped up in the beginning, on top of us getting lucky with butterfree.

Stop repeating yourself, it's getting annoying. You had no reasons to attack me on Day 1, I have told you this and why several times already. I did not "slip up" in the beginning. You're making this stuff up.

[[M] Eizen]

Togepi

Slowpoke vs. Kadabra

Who will win?!

[[M] Mom – Host]

Slowpoke

I know what a cop does. You attacked me furiously before you investigated me. That's my point.

And what? you're admitting to being the Lyncher? Then that really settles it. You'll be one of the winners of the game if I'm lynched before you die, so then it's really in everyone's best interest to not lynch me today.

I attacked you before I investigated you because that attack, was to hopefully be able to lynch you without revealing that I'm a cop. If I had suspicion before, and had gone along with that the Mafia would have no reason to believe I'm a cop I would be able to investigate at night while safe.

The whole point of not bieng found out as a cop is, so that you can have more safe nights, which are very needed because alot of times cops just investigate citizens. but I think I got a mafia and not citizien, because you slipped up in the beginning, on top of us getting lucky with butterfree.

There is no way a cop would show himself

please consider I am in extreme jeopardy of bieng lynched.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Why trust Slowpoke right now? Cop is important, if he's telling the truth and we lynch him, we may as well have shot ourselves in the foot.

How about we lynch someone unactive, and then the REAL cop investigates Slowpoke tonight?

I really don't want to let Slowpoke get away with all of this. That would be very annoying.

How about Bulbasaur? he hasn't even posted yet. Or if you guys are not keen on bumping off inactives, then we could always go for the mysterious bandwagoner Squirtle, who seemed to have little reason to jump on Slowpoke's accusations yesterday.

Yes, I'm willing to go that far because I told you all my role, I told you the truth, and I don't want Slowpoke to get away with killing me off for no reason.

If he dies after you are lynched isn't that not getting away with it?

Anyway. This is an interesting idea. But how do we know the real cop from a mafia member trying to get the real cop killed?

[[M] D'Anna]

Kadabra

Yeah, Slowpoke will definitely get himself good and lynched tomorrow, but it's still annoying to let him get me first. I don't get why people trust him really. Is it because he posts a lot and keeps pulling stuff out of his ass? I should try that tactic in the next game. :rolleyes:

And that's a problem indeed, as we have already witnessed, any fool can claim to be the cop.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Slowpoke

Yeah, Slowpoke will definitely get himself good and lynched tomorrow, but it's still annoying to let him get me first. I don't get why people trust him really. Is it because he posts a lot and keeps pulling stuff out of his ass? I should try that tactic in the next game. :rolleyes:

And that's a problem indeed, as we have already witnessed, any fool can claim to be the cop.

but only a legendary fool can claim to be a hunter.
If anything was pulled out of an ass, it's the hunter claim.
and also your obscure inactivity retrace idea?

Makes no sense to kill inactive players when we have some1 as likely to be a werewolf as you.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Sorry Kadabra, but I have to make this vote, just to make sure I don't accidentally vote against our cop.

Vote: Kadabra.

If you aren't Mafia, you can be sure you'll be avenged. If you are Mafia well then hurray :P

[[M] Adama]

Clefairy

I say we lynch Kadabra! He proves to be more suspicious and has little to no explanation for any of his claims. Mafia can only lie. Slowpoke could be deceiving us, but if Kadabra IS a member of the town, we know that Slowpoke is lying and can kill him the next day. On the other hand, we benefit more if Slowpoke is the really the cop, and I'm sure the doctor(I think it's Vulpix) will save him.

So my vote will stay. Vote: Kadabra

[[M] D'Anna]

Kadabra

If anything was pulled out of an ass, it's the hunter claim.
and also your obscure inactivity retrace idea?

Makes no sense to kill inactive players when we have some1 as likely to be a werewolf as you.

Believe me, killing someone inactive is not what I want the most right now.

It was merely a suggestion if killing you was off the table.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Wow, this certainly puts a spin on things.

Now we have two people both roleclaiming at the same time. Kadabra claims to be a hunter, who hunts the serial killer. If that's true, it would make sense on why he's talking about a serial killer all the time and it would also put Slowpoke back as being suspicious. I'm not sure how much I believe that the serial killer is called werewolf, though, but that did seem to be a lot of people's first instincts in the thread. And Del and Miriel did say that they made up at least two sorry, I looked again and it was one roles. Slowpoke claims to be the cop, and that would also cast aside a lot of my suspicions toward him if it's true, like why he's so adamantly going after Kadabra.

As a result, I'm just unsure about both of them now. But, I decided I'm not going after Kadabra today, because of this.

Kadabra, what is the role of a serial killer? I really wish there were one list assembled that we can look at to strategize from, instead of having all roles and any made up roles be possible.

The Serial Killer can kill someone each night, he basically functions as a Mafia, except he's all on his own. I'm not sure if he'll appear guilty on cop investigations. Does he, Miriel? In case he doesn't, it might be hell figuring out who he is. It would make sense for a Serial Killer to try and stay low and not catch too much attention.

Now, I still have a feeling both Psyduck & Geodude are innocents. I see my suggestion of Bulbasaur, who still hasn't posted, caught on, so I'm going to change my vote now. No point in wasting my vote like that. This is pretty much a battle between Geodude and Psyduck. I don't think either of them are very suspicious, but I don't think Psyduck is lying. And since he revealed himself as a back up cop now, then the mafia will surely want to kill him in the night, right? Maybe Psyduck is someone to go after tomorrow. This day will be pretty random no matter what, so here we go.

Vote: Geodude

I also have a feeling that Vulpix is a citizen, there's just something about how he posts that gives off a citizen vibe. of course, I can be horribly wrong about this one. xD

Lying? wanting to kill innocent people? protecting and backing up Psyduck... constantly changing votes to kill anyone that is not suspected for bieng a Mafia member.

Slowpoke made this post before Day 2 started, so he wouldn't have been sure that Kadabra is mafia yet if he is the cop. It still seems like he's jumping on him fairly aggressively and certainly though. That's not enough for me to vote for Slowpoke either, because I don't want to completely believe Kadabra as well.

As a result, I'm not going to vote for either Slowpoke or Kadabra, and here's what I urge. In the last mafia game, there were two cops. I think there's a fairly good chance that there is another cop or at least a secondary cop role like tracker. I think that Kadabra should be investigated tonight to confirm whether or not Slowpoke is on the right track.

If Kadabra turns out to be mafia, we lynch him the next day. If Kadabra turns out to be innocent, we lynch Slowpoke. There is of course always the possibility that Slowpoke is the lyncher role and Kadabra is the lynchee like Charmander suggested, but I don't think Slowpoke would claim he's the cop if he is the lyncher.

At least this way we'll not be making a grave mistake. The only qualms I have about my plan is that this would require the cop, tracker, or any other role to reveal themselves, which would give the mafia more ideas about who to kill. I don't know what to make of that, but maybe the doctors can protect them, then. I assume there's more than one doctor, too. I realize there's the chance that someone can untruthfully claim to be a cop, but this would only give us more ammunition and a whole number of people to lynch once we figure it out. I just don't want to take risks with either of them right now. I think both of them are into the game enough and have made intelligent enough posts that losing them as a citizen would be a loss to the community.

As for my vote, Sandshrew explained himself and this makes me less suspicious of him than before. I can't decide what exactly Charmander is, and I think he's a little misguided, but I think he is trying. This leaves Jigglypuff and Squirtle. Jigglypuff has been fairly inactive and voted for Kadabra this round. Squirtle voted for Clefairy and hasn't been explaining himself. I think Jigglypuff had more reason to go after Kadabra than Squirtle to go for Clefairy. I'm going to give Jigglypuff the benefit of the doubt and assume that he voted for Kadabra for reasons that other people stated before instead of just jumping the bandwagon or randomly voting.

Squirtle voted for Clefairy simply because Clefairy seems too innocent. He also voted for others yesterday for unexplained reasons. That's why I think I'm going to have to vote for Squirtle this round.

Vote: Squirtle

Truly sorry if I'm wrong, my turtle friend, but you must admit that you brought this upon yourself from your actions. I just don't see a better course of action to take right now.

I'll end this post with the votes and tally.

Slowpoke: Kadabra
Clefairy: Kadabra
Psyduck: Kadabra
Kadabra: Slowpoke
Sandshrew: Kadabra
Charmander: Kadabra
Jigglypuff: Kadabra
Squirtle: Clefairy
Oddish: Psyduck
Charmander: Unvote Kadabra, Vote Squirtle
Snorlax: Charmander
Charmander: Unvote Squirtle, Vote Slowpoke
Charmander: Unvote Slowpoke, Vote Squirtle
Vulpix: Squirtle

Kadabra: 5 - Slowpoke, Clefairy, Psyduck, Sandshrew, Jigglypuff
Slowpoke: 1 - Kadabra
Clefairy: 1 - Squirtle
Psyduck: 1 - Oddish
Charmander: 1 - Snorlax
Squirtle: 2 - Charmander, Vulpix

[[M] Mom – Host]

Slowpoke

Slowpoke made this post before Day 2 started, so he wouldn't have been sure that Kadabra is mafia yet if he is the cop. It still seems like he's jumping on him fairly aggressively and certainly though. That's not enough for me to vote for Slowpoke either, because I don't want to completely believe Kadabra as well.

I already suggested lynching me if Kadabra is innocent.

Also, the reason I had made suspiscions of him before investigating him was I wanted to try and eliminate a mafia member without having to reveal my role and I thought already having had the same person suggested would make the werewolf think I wasn't a cop.

and I obviously do want to take the "risk" because if you look at it from my angle. It is not a risk, but simlply the lynching of a werewolf. The only risk I actually fear right now is that the doctor not protect me at night because he doesn't believe me or that you guys decide to lynch me.

actually nevermind, Kadabra would be revealed as a werewolf. but doctor listen, if Kadabra is killed I still fear there is a 3rd werewolf out there.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Snorlax

Slowpoke If you are a cop, you clould be either a paranoid cop or an insane cop. It is too early to reveal that you are a cop, and you should not attack the first person you investigate. Now, here is the list of all day 2 votes up until now in order.

Hypno Vote: Slowpoke
Hypno Unvote: Slowpoke
Hypno Vote: Snorlax
Clefairy Vote: Kadabra
Psyduck Vote: Kadabra
Kadabra Vote: Slowpoke
Sandshrew Current Vote: Kadabra
Charmander Vote: Kadabra
Jigglypuff Vote: Kadabra
Squirtle Vote: Clefairy
Oddish Vote:Psyduck
Charmander Unvote: Kadabra
Charmander Vote: Squirtle
Snorlax Vote: Charmander
Charmander Unvote: Squirtle
Charmander Vote: Slowpoke
Charmander Unvote: slowpoke
Charmander Vote: squirtle
Sandshrew Vote: Kadabra.
Vulpix Vote: Squirtle

I am suspicious about both Charmander and Squirtle, both of whom are randomly switching votes around a lot. As there is no support to lynch charmander, I am going to
Unvote: Charmander
Vote: Squirtle

That makes the tally now
Kadabra: 5 - Slowpoke, Clefairy, Psyduck, Sandshrew, Jigglypuff
Slowpoke: 1 - Kadabra
Clefairy: 1 - Squirtle
Psyduck: 1 - Oddish
Squirtle: 3 - Charmander, Vulpix, Snorlax

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

I already suggested lynching me if Kadabra is innocent.

I know, and that does make me less suspicious of you, but from my perspective it doesn't hurt to wait one more day for a second cop to investigate Kadabra. If Kadabra is a mafia member, he'll either die today or he'll die tomorrow. If he isn't a mafia member, he'll die today and you'll die tomorrow, but we'll have killed an innocent person.

Also, the reason I had made suspiscions of him before investigating him was I wanted to try and eliminate a mafia member without having to reveal my role and I thought already having had the same person suggested would make the werewolf think I wasn't a cop.

You don't reveal your role simply by investigating him. You can investigate him and still keep your role secret. I'm a bit confused on this.

Sorry if I'm trying to take this too slowly, I just don't feel comfortable with this whole argument and all the roleclaiming, and I want to be sure.

[[M] D'Anna]

Kadabra

Okay, I have to go to bed now, and when I wake up Day 2 will be over, so I gotta finish up this now. It seems like Squirtle has the most votes now, so the obvious decision for me now is to vote for Squirtle. That's because I know I'm innocent, and because Squirtle has behaved suspiciously when bandwagoning on Slowpoke's baseless accusations on Day 1 (before he investigated, which he actually didn't do because he's not a cop)

Vote: Squirtle

So please, everyone who have not yet voted, read this post:

Everyone, read this:

Ok, you guys have left me no choice but to reveal my role, which isn't a big deal, my role is pretty much over now anyway. But I really would've preferred to keep it a secret because it gives the Mafia a higher chance to find a doctor or a cop. My role is Hunter.

A Hunter is a person who can investigate people at night and determine if that person is a serial killer or not. In this case, the serial killer is called Werewolf. That's why I planted some seeds in the beginning of the game that there might be a serial killer in this game, just so you, citizens, would be more aware. Here's my post on Day 1. This was before the serial killer died:

I don't take any of this too seriously, and I don't think anyone else should either. I don't think Del and I need to "defend" anything cause for serious, guys. This round is gonna last like a few days at most. It's just for fun. And like we've said, we're gonna give it a shot, see how it works out, try and have some fun.

Take notice of the bolded out part. This round will only last a few days? How do you make a game with 22 players last only a few days? If people die rapidly, then surely the game will be over pretty quick, right? Which is why I think there might be some kind of serial killer in this game. So we should definitely be alert of that. If there is a serial killer in addition to mafia then two citizens will die each night. Sure, the doctor will have a higher chance of protecting someone, but it still means we have to be more clever during days. But I could be wrong, maybe Miriel has a pretty loose definition of the word "few". I guess we'll find out once the first night is over.

So that's why I focused on the word serial killer rather than another mafia faction... I see it has confused a few people and caused people to think I was a liar. Obviously my little plan of tipping you off backfired right into my face.

This is also the reason why nobody died tonight. The serial killer died, and the other mafia group attacked someone who got protected. There's only two factions in this game now that the serial killer died. Lucky for us.

Of course, this means my role is pretty much useless from now on, but at least it means I'm not a bad guy.

Now please believe me on this, Slowpoke IS a member of the Mafia, the REAL mafia, and there are not any other werewolves in this game. Don't let him manipulate you, don't go with the flow. He doesn't have any evidence, yet he claims in every direction he can think of.

That's why I've been acting a bit strange, because I actually have been hiding something, you guys were right about that. However, what I was hiding was harmless to the citizens.

Lynch Slowpoke today, investigate me tonight if that's what it takes for you to believe me.

edit: That's why I was adamant about the vampires, Eevee, because I know there's not any more werewolves... Maybe they're called something else than vampires though. Maybe just Mafia.

I have come clean, that is my role. Please believe me.

Good night everyone!