for all of you that hate ff7...

[Vivisteiner]

I like the game, I hate the fanbase because they caused all those annoying FFVII spin-offs instead of the FFIX remake that should have happened.

[Momiji]

The game is simply not that great. It's glitchy, slow, and the storyline kind of bores me. The fanbase is much worse though. I see no reason to call FFVII the best, and the main reason many base their opinion on it is because it has Sephiroth in it.

Note: Kuja was a much more evil guy, and therefore cooler. Following this logic, FFIX is one of my favorites. That, and I loved the storyline and the characters.

[Bolivar]

I might strike YOU dead just for being an idiot. You missed a very key part of my post. Go back and read it again, see if you can wrap your puny brain around the entire thing.

(And how can IX NOT be considered a "real" Final Fantasy when it's a tribute to the old ones?)

Okay, I just have to say - I thought I remember a mod claiming that we're not supposed to make personal vicious attacks on anyone on these forums? Do you really believe someone to be an idiot with a puny brain because they point out the simple-mindedness of your post?

Let me guess, the "key" part of your point was "often, not always". Well let me ask you a couple of questions:

Being that the game was released in 1997
1) how many 7-year olds and younger were apart of the huge fan base that gave this game its global acclaim
and
2) how many writers for gaming publications, which gave the game universal praise at the time, do you believe were 7 and under?

I love how the bashers of this game can't help themselves but make stereotyping assumptions about why people love this game for false reasons, believing in their narrowminded view that NO ONE could POSSIBLY have legitimate reasons for liking it. "They were 7-years old at the time"/"It was their first FF"/"It was their first RPG"/"Children are pre-disposed to like characters like Cloud"/etc etc etc etc....

All of which have no basis, considering a) plenty of people, including many of this forum, disprove it and b) there's no possible way you could ever confirm it to be true.

Aerith's Knight - yes, Nintendo fanboyism does account for alot of the hate this game gets. The Sony/Nintendo console war was much more divisive than the ones since. At the time, it was seen that N64 was superior in every way, and then came FFVII, itself being a manifestation of the reasons why it wasn't.

FFVII fanbase is also bad, but I don't find it AS bad, except for the "FFVII is good and others suck people"

This statement has been made multiple times, and others before me have echoed this sentiment:

Where are the fans who talk like this? Where are the nonsensical fanboys who like this game solely for Sephiroth and cutscenes? Where are the ones who go as far to "hate" the other FF's simply because they're not VII? And please don't say "chrisfan" or whoever on this forum, because more than likely, he was responding to the relentless barages of SNES-wrath that he probably received on a daily basis for the simple fact that he likes it.

In my experience on this forum, the only people childish and emotional enough to actually have "hate" for another video game are the FFVI-elitists who can't shake the memories of crying themselves to sleep while clutching to their Super Nintendo in the fall and winter of 1997.

[cloud21zidane16]

The game is simply not that great. It's glitchy, slow, and the storyline kind of bores me. The fanbase is much worse though. I see no reason to call FFVII the best, and the main reason many base their opinion on it is because it has Sephiroth in it.

Note: Kuja was a much more evil guy, and therefore cooler. Following this logic, FFIX is one of my favorites. That, and I loved the storyline and the characters.

Do you mean slow as in loading times? i dont think they could have made it any better for the time
I agree that Kuja was a good villain though

[Del Murder]

roto, watch the insults.

[Hazzard]

I LUV IT ITS THE BESTEST GAME IN THE WORLD!!! CLOUD RULEZ LIKE SOCKS ON BEAVERS AND TOTALLY IS HAWT!!

SEPHI IS A REAL GANGSTA WITH HIS 9 METRES SWORD WOOHHH!!!

[Roto13]

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[Momiji]

The game is simply not that great. It's glitchy, slow, and the storyline kind of bores me. The fanbase is much worse though. I see no reason to call FFVII the best, and the main reason many base their opinion on it is because it has Sephiroth in it.

Note: Kuja was a much more evil guy, and therefore cooler. Following this logic, FFIX is one of my favorites. That, and I loved the storyline and the characters.

Do you mean slow as in loading times? i dont think they could have made it any better for the time
I agree that Kuja was a good villain though

Slow as in loading times AND the progression of the story.

[Wolf Kanno]

I don't necessarily hate VII. But apparently cause I prefer VI and the older FFs and can't seem to recognize that VII was a "revolution that transcended the rpg genre" makes me an elitist fanboy and a VII hater on the VII hate band wagon.

I liked the game but in terms of characters and story, I wasn't blown away by it. There were better games released before it and better games released after it. I just don't believe in giving false credit to a game I don't feel deserves it.

I love its world and music, the concepts and ideas are interesting but not executed as well as I would like. The materia system is fun but like all FFs after V, it needs some balancing especially end game wise. The cast really doesn't do much for me except for the villains, though I do feel Sephiroth is a bit of a disappointment and I especially hate how he's changed over the years thanks to AC, KH, and the compilations. Its still a solid game but I don't feel its truly mind blowing. Just another good game in a string of good titles released at the time.

[Bolivar]

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Summary: the universal acclaim it received in '97 debunks your "born-after-1997" hypothesis, as well as others on the long list of sociology theses provided on why the game was such a hit.

[Tallulah]

In the immortal words of Spoony, "I don't necessarily hate Final Fantasy VII; I just hate the people who obsess over it."

Hehe, creepy fanboys...

[Nifleheim7]

are you serious.. do fanboys act that way?

As you can clearly see in this thread,they do.

[Hazzard]

Hey, why'd my post get ignored? It clearly contained significant meaning to it, and a well put-across opinion, nevertheless.

[cloud21zidane16]

Hey, why'd my post get ignored? It clearly contained significant meaning to it, and a well put-across opinion, nevertheless.

It was so perfect there was just no arguing back

[Aerith's Knight]

Hey, why'd my post get ignored? It clearly contained significant meaning to it, and a well put-across opinion, nevertheless.

It was so perfect there was just no arguing back

FINE.. you want a battle


WHY DID THERE HAVE TO BE SOCKS ON THE BEAVER!!! YOUR SO WRONG!!! ITS DEFENIATLY SHOES NO QUESTION!!!!!!!!