Popularity I laugh in your face!

[XxSephirothxX]

Mr. Impurity, I tend to agree with you, but I've found as Rebellion leader that when you are outright serious and directly criticize a group, it doesn't go down well, but when you inject humor into otherwise serious comments and include less criticisms, it has better results among the common populace. By directly criticizing the spammers, you now have many people ready to target you and pick battles with you, though if you had brought this up in a lighter manner it might have worked better. Also, naming names naturally invites trouble as well.

If we're going to define "spam" as anything that is not strictly related to a topic, do you have any idea how boring this place would be? Posts do get deleted, and entirely pointless things are removed, and sometimes people do get punished. But it's a place for people to have fun and converse, and if you have a problem with people not being serious enough, put them on your ignore list.

Well why is it, then, that many a time the people who are trying to be funny that go way off topic are fine, but as soon as two members have something akin to a conversation in a thread, they're asked by a staff member to take it to PM's? Why is it that as soon as a related topic is brought up for more than one post, it MUST be separated into another topic?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a little humorous spam, but if this is a place to "have fun and converse" why is it that conversation or related topics are given a greater priority to be labeled as spam and stifled?

Directly criticizing people is often hurtful or rude, and there's almost always a more constructive way to present your argument. And yeah, sometimes adding in a little humor is a good idea. If this thread had been less dramatic, it very well might have received more serious responses and less of a general "You're wrong." type of response.

The way I see it, most of the time when people post a random comment/image or whatever, it is spam, and sometimes it's trash. But a lot of times those jokes, references, in-jokes, or outright silly things make the conversation more entertaining, and in general they can stay. But it's a really hard thing to put any sort of concrete label on.

I think you're exaggerating that anytime a new topic spawns within another one that it must be split off. That definitely doesn't happen all the time. In EoEO, topics are split because talk about one subject often begins to override the original topic which some people still want to talk about. So it makes sense to split it up. I think plenty of times conversations evolve somewhat and change focus without being split.

And I think, again, plenty of times members can have some back-and-forth in a topic, but it can become obvious that they're taking their own little commentary on the topic and just bouncing it back and forth between one another, eventually disrupting the flow of continued contribution. If two people want to continue said discussion, that's fine, but it's nicer for other people if the whole thread doesn't end up derailed that way!

@Poetically Pathetic: Have you ever thought the reason society crumbles and degrades is because of not enough people caring/doing/complaining anything about it?

Just so you know the terrible "If you dont like it leave" argument is soooooo overused...you would think a poet like you would be more original than that huh?

I mean in case you forget I have just as much right to be here as you do! I'm sure there are other people that share my views on popularity on here as it's not such a hard thing to grasp...well for some people anyway.

You seem to be happy with whats going on right now...you seem happy with your little E-life and couldnt care what happens as long as it doesnt effect you right? Well for one this is classed as selfishness and also its people that have the same attitude as you that let things like global warming get out of hand.

Sure this may only be a forum but the premise is much the same...if people dont keep order then eventually things will degrade beyond comprehension.

I think the general consensus is that this just isn't really the case. There are spammy threads in Gen. Chat, and there are less spammy threads. BoB made a good example. From a few weeks ago, Jess was making a couple good threads a day and generally people were actually voicing opinions, just the way your normal conversation should be. You'll always see trends between more and less serious topics, and I think to say that EoFF is currently in some state of Dire Spammination is silliness.