The Golden Compass[movie]

[escobert]

The reasons why you shouldnt see this movie:

The Golden Compass Vs. The Holy Bible

that was amazing xD

"The Golden Compass teaches children that bears can talk. The Bible makes it factually clear to children that only snakes and donkeys can talk. "Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" Genesis 3:1 "And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee?" Numbers 22:30"
xD

[Laddy]

Screw those extremists. You don't have to be an atheist to enjoy this movie. XD

I went to go see it yesterday, and I must say, it was amazing. It was well-written and even scary at times (or that might just be me being a total pussy.) The daemons are very cute, and I reccommend anybody to see it.

If you are planning to not be exposed to atheism, worry not, it's so subtle and the message is so unimportant you'll forget the real purpose of this film and wholeheartedly enjoy it.

[IronOcean]

If you read the first one there is not a whole to do with the church at all. Look at harry Potter the christain groups went nuts over those books and look what happened to it. i think it is smart writing get alot of people pissed and make everyone want to see what all commoition is about.

[Heath]

Out of curiosity, how many of you have read the books? You seem to be saying that it's well written and executed, while a lot of what I've heard is that it is too rushed because it tries to cram too much of the book into too short of a time frame, and I'm wondering if that's true and you guys are able to follow it better because you are already familiar with the world, plot, and characters.

I've read the first two books. Lee Scoresby was as awesome as he should've been and Lyra, in all fairness, was better than I expected. The two question marks I had, really, were Daniel Craig and Nicole Kidman as Asriel and Coulter respectively, but they both managed to pull off their characters really well. Overall, I thought it was pretty good casting. I did realise Ian McKellen and Christopher Lee were in it until I saw it and was pleased to see them both included. Particularly Lee who, in my mind, is one of the best actors around to play a villain on-screen.

[Germ Hamee]

I just got back from seeing it, and frankly thought it was a pretty boring movie. But the daemons were ADORABLE and I really liked Coulter. It's pretty obvious they skipped over a lot of stuff, so I'm going to give the book a try and see if I change my mind.

[Shauna]

I just saw it last night. I thought it was pretty good. I know they lopped off the ending, but thinking over it, it'd probably make MORE sense at the start of the second film. xD

[Breine]

- A giant bear played by Ian McKellen literally smacks the jaw off another bear

That's who voiced him????!!!

Man, I'm shocked! He actually sounded pretty good... Well... better than he normally sounds anyway. Perhaps he's learned to act a little?

Are you kidding me? Seriously, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Ian McKellen = one of the greatest actors of the modern era.

I would pay to listen to him read out of a phone book, he's amazing.

Seconded.

Yes! Shame on you MJN SEIFER..

Anyway, saw the movie last night and I thought it was pretty decent. "Stardust" was much better in my opinion, but I'll definitely go and see the sequel when/if it comes out.

[Vincent, Thunder God]

The reasons why you shouldnt see this movie:

The Golden Compass Vs. The Holy Bible

I think the entire article was effectively shot down by this quote from the very first sentence.

(based on the pornographic scribblings of unrepentant God-hater and -- quite possibly -- heroin addicted child diddler, Philip Pullman)

Anyone who's read the book would realize it's hopelessly ridiculous, pedantic and extreme view. I've read the book and never at any time did I believe it was anti-Christian. A minor theme or motif is the focus on the excessive aspects of modern society, not specifically of any religion but rather modern life in general, and even that was presented in an objective fashion and rarely obvious. It was also done tastefully and wasn't ever a major aspect of the work.

In fact, I strongly believe the book is intended for teens and young adults, and that if a child were to read it, they wouldn't comprehend that backdrop to the world of the book (which is an alternate reality by the way, not our world). In my opinion this is another poorly researched attempt at blacklisting an innocent fantasy tale created by overzealous religious fanatics, and has little to do with helping children make informed decisions on faith.

It's very similar to the moronic view that Harry Potter creates Satanic worship - if you believe such nonsense, by all means, this new fervor-fueled outrage over the Golden Compass will appeal to your unreasonable side.

Um, the entire series was created to undermine the Christian faith. The author admits this.

It really is true - the Internet IS full of people making up their own convenient untruths to "win" debates.

CBC radio had this interview about a week ago (you can listen to it here) in which Philip states it IS NOT anti-Christian, but does highlight the dangers of letting ANY religion interfere too much with state, and I believe you can see this in evidence with the pasts of any religion of the world. So, as I first said, yes, the book provides a brief view of an alternate reality in which the inherent problems with our society are present, but that isn't a huge focus, and it's not directed at any one religion.

Look at it this way - why not interpret it without any preconceived notions at all about how it mirrors our world? That's what I did, and I saw it as a society that was faulty, but not a direct critique of our world.

The reasons why you shouldnt see this movie:

The Golden Compass Vs. The Holy Bible

I think the entire article was effectively shot down by this quote from the very first sentence.

If you actually read the article, you might discover that it's actually pro-Dark Materials and anti-bible. You know... if you bothered to even glance over the whole thing.

It is a sign of how absurd I believe the Christian church can be that I didn't feel the need for verification.

[lulusgirl]

I agree...
The diner scene where she was caught was CHANGED man...but then again...I read the book in 5th grade and the second in 6th...so it's a bit hazy to me.
But when I saw the movie, it all came back to me...but some parts I believe to be changed.

[Depression Moon]

Believe it or not, having my faith attacked is not something I usually pay for, especially since there are so many places where I can get it attacked for free.

The movie didn't even have anything religously offensive in it. I might agree with you if you were referring to the book, but the movie was highly dissapointing. I just don't understand how these good authors let Hollywood or whatever ruin their work. So many things were altered in the book that it was insulting I was very tempted to walk out of their, but I was so infuriated. they revealed too much of the story early in the movie leaving no surprises or suspense later on. They didn't quite express the cruelty or violence that the book had. I was surprised that the movie was rated R when the book had some very violent parts and some nudity. I was expecting them to cut out some of the parts from Chapter 2 since i found that a bit dulling. Films based off books should stay true to the all around nature of the film, but improve on some parts of the book that were dull. Unfortunately JK or Pullman done it they both tried to kiddy up their films a bit. I don't understand how these authors let these people do these things to their work. Well what I know is that when it's turn I won't allow it to it happen to mine.

[Vincent, Thunder God]

I don't understand how these authors let these people do these things to their work.

Money my friend, lots of money.

[Breine]

I don't understand how these authors let these people do these things to their work.

Money my friend, lots of money.

Yes. Lots of people will be buying Pullman's books after this movie has been made.

[MJN SEIFER]

[QUOTE=Breine;2380903]

{Quoute after quote of Ian Mckellen stuff}

Yes! Shame on you MJN SEIFER.. .

It's interesting to note, that I don't think my opinions on the movie it's self have been commented on yet. But coments on an ACTOR have...

Also, I already retracted my coments on Ian, seeing as I have only seen him in two films, but a lot of TV shows. And in the TV shows he is awful, but he seemed good in the film Golden Compas, and the film "Lord of the rings".

Someone said that if an actor is better known for films they aren't that good on TV and shouldn't be judged on it.

[Vincent, Thunder God]

I don't understand how these authors let these people do these things to their work.

Money my friend, lots of money.

Yes. Lots of people will be buying Pullman's books after this movie has been made.

Not to mention the hefty royalties, or the increased controversy about the film being anti-Christianity adding to sales.

[Vivisteiner]

I actually like the reply to this question...

"How can you let these people do those things to your books!?"

"What are you talking about? My book is still sitting there on that shelf, completely unchanged."


Or something like that.