Mafia IV - Official Game Thread (Game Over: TOWN WIN)

[[M] Aaron]

Okay, I'm making this quick as I'm tired to the death and it's 2 PM. I'll get more into it before work tomorrow. I've read all the new posts, but I haven't analyzed too much just yet. I'll save that for tomorrow.

Here's what I think

Not mafia:
Cl_out
foa

I think we can all agree on that.

Probably not mafia:
Leeza (Maybe she's cleared, I have to check through this thread again in the morning)

Maybe Mafia:
Koshiatar (if she isn't cop, she probably is)
BtV
theundeadhero (most suspicious of the stay low people, the other two stay lowers would be Zeromus_X and Hsu.)
Cid (his vote for yams, who voted for BtV, might've screwed up things for him now)

I'm guessing what happened tonight is that the mafia tried to kill either koshiatar or cl_out, and it failed. I can't think of any other people the mafia might've tried killing at this point. Maybe foa, since she's pretty much cleared after having Shlup at her throat through this game.

because doctors can't protect themselves only others

No, doctors can protect themselves. Faith Healers can't.

If the doctor protects the "cop" ko and ko is mafia then his protecting the mafia and the mafia will know who the doctor is

Nope, that's not the case. If the doctor protects a mafia member, the mafia member will not find out who protected him.

but I will I KNOW he is not the cop because the cop would have investigated someone and to randomly reveal themselves as a cop is stupid

I think we all agree that it was not very bright to step forward as a cop when she wasn't in danger of dying and she didn't even have any investigation results for us, but does that make her a liar/mafia? I just can't see it benefit her no matter what her role is. My point is, yeah, I find it fishy, but do I want to risk killing what could possibly be our last cop? Eh. That's why I agree with clout that it would be a good thing for the real cop to step forward if that is the case, otherwise we'll be forced to believe koshiatar's lies, if she is mafia. We have at least 1 doctor, maybe we even have two since there initially were two factions in this game, so there's a good chance the cop will be safe for many rounds if he does step forward.

I believe the cop should reveal themself if they investigate and find somebody guilty, and not before. Oh, and also if there's a fake roleclaim, which three of us seem to think.

Agreed. If I was a cop and found a mafia member, I would roleclaim immediately. Well, first I'd make sure I wasn't an insane cop. That could get embarassing. The point is that killing even one mafia member is awesome, and can link to other mafia members, and if the doctor is still alive, then the cop will be kept alive to perform many investigations in the future! I remember someone disagreed with this, so I thought I'd just elaborate on why it's a good thing to do, rather than sitting on a lot of valuable information and risk getting killed at night so nobody will ever know what you knew.

Okay, that was a quick overview xD Tomorrow I will analyze votings as it's 3 AM now jesus christ.

I'm very curious about who Koshiatar investigated and the result now.

edit:

Azar made the comment that he thinks I'm Pro-Town and only backed it up with the fact that I was first to vote BoB. I really don't understand how that makes me seem Pro-Town. I would have liked to see Azar post again to give some more reasoning as to why he thought that.

Firstly, that comment of mine has to be seen while thinking of the time I posted it and also the wording I used. What I meant, was that (at the moment) I was clueless about who was mafia, but that you were the one that I least suspected. That's why I was just interested in hearing what you had to say. I didn't mean at all that you were cleared, because after round 2, nobody was.