Yay for long posts.

Okay, given my previous assessment, I now think that BtV is quite possibley Mafia. Howeer, a couple more things came to light afterwords. First, day one Voting.

Loony BoB - 9 - (Del Murder, Psychotic, Cid, ShlupQuack, Roogle, Zeromus_X, eestlinc, theundeadhero, fire_of_avalon)
fire_of_avalon - 6 - (Azar, Yamaneko, Behold the Void, Loony BoB, Kawaii Ryűkishi, Leeza)
Roogle - 1 - (Hsu)
Leeza -1 (Necronopticous)

Day 2 Votes

4 ShlupQuack (Leeza, foa, Psychotic, crono_logical)
3 fire_of_avalon (Behold the Void, KoShiatar, Zeromus_X)
2 crono_logical (ShlupQuack, Roogle)
2 Behold the Void (Yamaneko, eestlinc)
1 Yamaneko (Cid)
1 Cid (Hsu)
1 Azar (Del Murder)
1 Leeza (Azar)

Anyone who did not vote for Shlup day 2 is suspicious. And since I still believe one who voted for BoB is still Mafia, here are those suspects, that both voted for BoB and not Shlup.
Del Murder, Cid, Roogle, Zero, eest, hero.

Of course, those Voting for Clout are also suspicious, as he also helped to get rid of Shlup, and the only one who did that is Roogle.

As I thought, at least one person who voted for BoB was Mafia. Shlup. I still think it's possible at leat one other was. Of the others we have the following suspects.

Psychotic, Cid, ShlupQuack. Roogle. Zeromus, eestlinc, theundeadhero. and fire_of_avalon.

Though now, I would like to draw attention to these posts during day 2 I think are relevant to learning the true identity of these three posters, Cid, theundeadhero, and Hsu (Well, and a little more on BtV that hasn't been covered.). All three of which have been pulled out of the limelite after Shlup and Koshi dragged it all to them. (Note, I'm writing this while the thread is closed, so I'll just use the post number and let you guys look at them yourselves. :P)

Post # 137 - BtV - He claims votes based off his Mafia experiance before, yet doesn't go into detail on it. While again it's not much, it's a little odd that he woulnd't explain his vote in more detail then "expirience."

Post # 143 - Roo - He claims Cid is being suspicious. I will get more into why this is important later.

Post # 147 - Hsu - This is Hsu's first notable post. He says Roo is providing good insight, though may be reading to much into it. He also, however, decides to go along with Roo for now due to Cid's supposed Suspicious Behavior.

Post # 148 - Roo - HE goes along with Yams not having a good reason to go along with void during day two in agreance with Cid, and now claims he is suspcious of Yams.

Post #149 - Shlup - Says Yams is acting like a Newbie Mafia, and thinks both me and him are together.

Post #150 - Roo - He is quick to agree with Shlup, however says he isn't sure about foa, and beleives Yams or foa should be investigated.

Post #177 - Shlup - She is quick to jump at leeza, switching votes immidiately to her.

Post #198 - BtV - AGain he votes for me based off experience. However what he said was because I bandwagoned to kill a Citzen, which is what happened before.

Post #239 - Hsu - Agrees that Ko is likely not a cop, and proceeds to say a cop wouldn't reveal themselves without evidence.

Post #241 - Azar - Voices Suspicion against BtV (For no specific reason), Hero for keeping a low profile (Though he also hints at Zero and Hsu in that very suspicion), and Cid for going after Yams after voting for BtV.

Post #242 - Clout - In addition to my suspects, (BtV, Roo, Zero, and Koshi) he adds on Cid for him going along with Shlup over the Yam issue.

Post #244 - Azar - He points out that BtV and Roogle were suddenly in agreance on the likely possobility of a Second Mafia. He also notes that Roo believes Shlup raises a good point.

Post #244 - Roo - Roo claims he wouldn't slip us so easily and agree with shlup iso often he were Mafia, and then goes on to place Suspicioun on Ko and theundead hero. Finally pins blame on Zero for playing the newbie card.

Post #246 - Hsu - Hsu says the evidence is support of Yams is pretty solid when mentioned by Clout, though isn't ready to clear Yams's name yet.

Post #263 - Hsu - Instead of Hsu voting against Ko, he claims to beleive Ko is a cop, but a bad player. Then he places Blame on Hero for flying under the Radar ever more than he has been.

Post #264 - Cid - Now this post may very well have nothing to do with much, but I think it's still worth a look. He claims to have been testing Ko, to see if she could pull out evidence she was a cop, and yet goes to explain why he thinks she can't be.

Post #291 - Koshi - He had already claimed to be Mafia, and said that his fellow MAfians are BtV, Hsu, and Cid.

Post #294 - Eest points out Roo didn't switch votes with shlup to save me, (foa).
He also notes Cid's voting paterns are erratic, and on impulse, so East beleives Cid is not Mafia.

He points out Hero for Bandwagoning.

Thinks void is either a Traitor or a Godfather, though doesn't give much reason to believe so, but goes on to say investigating him would be pointless as he would come up innocent anyway.

He then says that Hero seems to be going along with Koshi, and also claims that if Koshi is mafia, then so is he.

Points out Hsu is protecting Koshi.

Says foa, Leeza, Psy, and Cl_out are townies.

Claims BtV is the Most suspicious.

Post # 323 - BtV - In this massive post, BtV only said two things that was suspcious. Even though all I said he was doing was calling Ko out, even though all I did was establish there was no connection between Void and Ko. Yet, he still got defensive even though I hadn't blamed him for anything with that remark.

Also, after clout began suspecting both BtV and roogle, BtV said that Roo wasn't suspicious.

Post #324 - Azar - He says if it hand't been for Koshi's next claims, he would have probably voted for cid. He then specifically points out that him saying this isn't suspicious because three others had already done so.

He even goes so far as to post he even knew it had been eight votes, and that Koshi was going to be lynched, even though he gave reasons why she shouldn't have been.

Finally, he even seemed surprised she was a Citzen in his edit.

Next, I will list the people who voted for BoB, and didn't vote me in round 2, all of which have some suspicioun cast because of this.



Now, here are all my conclusions on this, and I'll sort them by Player.

BtV
1. Both his votes are claimed to be based off expirience, because the Disney Mafia all Mafia bandwagoned to kill one person. Yet me, who he voted for, voted for BoB first, then switched to Azar shortly after. The reason for voiting for BoB again, is I was about to get Lynched. Thats hardly Bandwagoning, its protecting my own Hide.

2. He seems to not want any suspicion on Roo.

3. He gets defensive about things he shouldn't need to get defensive about, thus making him look nervous.

4) Azar pointed out possible connections with Roogle.

Hero
1.) Been accuses a couple of times for bandwaggoning.

2) A mysterious Vote from Hsu, which depending upon Hsu's role, may mean something.

Yams
1. The Mafia Shlup tried to discredit his defense of me.

2) Beleived by most to be innocent.

Roo
1. Has shown possible ties with both BtV and Shlup, who was confirmed Mafia. This looks suspicious not only for Roo, but for BtV as well. However the RooxShlup Connection is brought into question by East.

2) Even though it was called in question, he himself said that he wouldn't blindly follow Shlup. Since Changing his vote so late in the game would arise to much suspicion. I say that eest mention of his connection shouldn't be considered when determining the scumness of roo.

eest
1) Due to eest defense of Roo, trying to show a breakdown in the connection between Roo and Shlup leads me to think he may be sided with Roo. Meaning that it is likely lo be either RooxBTV, or Rooxeest.

Hsu

Okay, Hsu May very well be one of our smartest players. He has stayed under the radar for the most part. However, I would like to point out a couple things.

First, in the main thread, I believe it was Yams who said the cop is likely dropping suttle hints to his investigations, and clout himself said he beleives Hsu to be the smartest player we have right now.

So, look over Hsu's voting pattern.

Day 1 - Roogle.
Day 2 - cid
Day 3 - theundead hero

Mostley, I'd like you to turn your attention to the Day 3 vote. Note that hero wasn't really getting noticed, yet a bit of suspicion still set upon him. I'd think he would be a very good canidate for a Cop to investigate after Day 2 was over.

So, if Hsu is the cop, he may know if Hero is MAfia or not, though is still not quite ready to reveal himself. Someone like her is draining all of the attention to herself, and she isn't very helpful. Much better to let a useless townie get lynched then to get yourself lynched by roleclaiming cop as well.

However, if he is Mafia, he could easily just be doing all this to stay under the Radar so well. hero may still be Mafia, as really no one noticed, so a vote for him is completely safe, and won't draw attention a possible link. Of course, he could still be voting for a townie.

My point is, if Hsu is Mafia, that doesn't let off Hero. But if Hsu is a cop, I think Hero may just be Mafia.

I have a feeling that Hsu is definately a Cop or Mafia right now. Either way, he is playing his game smart.

However, It's quite important to find this out today. Because if we can, we can at least protect him for one more night with the doctor if he seems likely to be the cop. In addition, we can get his night 1 investigation, his night 2 investigation, and now his night 3.

So, I ask you this Hsu. Are you the Cop? If so, please explain yourself and give us your investigation info?

I know I could be screwing up severely by doing this, but I'm willing to take that risk.

(Note, I find it very hard to sound intelligent speaking with that crappy southern accent. :P)