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    God. What was the point of that? I ended up reading needlessly long, boring, explanatory posts for longer than what my attention span can handle. I don't see your point. Backing up the PS3 and putting down the Wii doesn't = Fanboy. It's all opinion, and having a personal opinion can't possibly mean that he's a fanboy. I may have an inkling that he may be, but nothing set in stone as of yet, so I reserve my judgment until then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    Technically, yes 360 can view 1080p display but the results from PS3 with 1080p are better than 360 on HDTVs due to some PS3's display features.

    I have owned 360, I adjusted 360 with my 32inch Samsung HDTV to view the best graphics as possible and the graphics were amazing, no doubt about that. I found the games less fun. So I gave 360 back because of reasons, months later I finally have bought PS3. Adjusted PS3 with my HDTV, the graphics were AMAZING! Better 1080p graphics than 360 and so far I love PS3
    Trix already hit on it, but I just wanted to reiterate that it doesn't make a lot of sense. Since 1080p is simply a resolution, those comparisons are almost worthless unless you were playing the same two games. So many factors that have nothing to do with the actual capabilities of either system can effect display. Like the game's actual technology. I mean, you could be playing Katamari Damacy on the 360 and Uncharted on the PS3. Of course the latter is going to look better in comparison. Component/VGA/HDMI input. What resolution the games support. From my experience with the Playstation 3, there are absolutely no "display features" that make it display "better" at 1920x1080. The nitty gritty technical details of processor, memory, and all that is another matter, but that is separate from the resolution.

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    Oh, give me a break. Am I the only one sick of hearing about the 1080i/p thing? Not content simply to argue about which console supports which, you're now arguing in about the quality of the same level of resolution. Who cares?! I'm happy with the Wii's graphics. Certainly, they're not as good as either the 360 or the PS3, but they're nice, and that's not the purpose of a video game system. I don't buy consoles becasue "ooh, this one's capable of processing 3hz faster than that one", or "yay, this one can play all the movies that are going to come out for the next few years until a new format is designed". If I want a movie player, I'll go buy a frelling movie player. I buy a gaming console for the games. You know, those things that the consoles are supposed to be designed for? So what if one system has a slight graphical edge over another? I buy the things to have fun. I don't want to waste a lot of money on a lot of bonus features like slightly enhanced graphics and movie players, I just want a console that can play fun games. That's it.
    Well, sure. The games are the ultimate important factor. But that's also a limited way to look at it. I'll watch a movie like The Godfather for a masterful story; I'll watch a movie like Children of Men for the incredible cinematography. If you don't find things like high dynamic range lighting or more photo-realistic graphics important to your experience, that's fine. But just like some people would rather play a game for the plot over the way it actually plays, some people care about cutting edge tech and better graphics. It's a valid issue.

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    Yeah, sorry for the rant, I just get a little tetchy about things sometimes. I wouldn't mind so much if there was a little variety to the post, but arguing the pros and cons of a system by just going back and forth about one tiny part of the system (there's like a page and a half talking about only the resolution and the resolution differences between the 360 and the PS3), ending with a bunch of people saying "yeah, they both support 1080p, but the PS3 does it better" just snapped my nerves. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistaCloudStrife View Post
    God. What was the point of that? I ended up reading needlessly long, boring, explanatory posts for longer than what my attention span can handle. I don't see your point. Backing up the PS3 and putting down the Wii doesn't = Fanboy. It's all opinion, and having a personal opinion can't possibly mean that he's a fanboy. I may have an inkling that he may be, but nothing set in stone as of yet, so I reserve my judgment until then.
    Depending on how he does it, it can.

    E.g I prefer the games on the PS3, and the price is no real trouble for me, but I don't like the Wii, the control scheme just seems too silly and it's games aren't for me.

    Compared to the possible:

    Smurf the Wii, it's a stupid POS with dumb kiddy games and stupid stick controller. PS3 has best graphics = it wins.

    ^^ those people, inserting any console name in either position, annoy me to no end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Cactuar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MistaCloudStrife View Post
    God. What was the point of that? I ended up reading needlessly long, boring, explanatory posts for longer than what my attention span can handle. I don't see your point. Backing up the PS3 and putting down the Wii doesn't = Fanboy. It's all opinion, and having a personal opinion can't possibly mean that he's a fanboy. I may have an inkling that he may be, but nothing set in stone as of yet, so I reserve my judgment until then.
    Depending on how he does it, it can.

    E.g I prefer the games on the PS3, and the price is no real trouble for me, but I don't like the Wii, the control scheme just seems too silly and it's games aren't for me.

    Compared to the possible:

    Smurf the Wii, it's a stupid POS with dumb kiddy games and stupid stick controller. PS3 has best graphics = it wins.

    ^^ those people, inserting any console name in either position, annoy me to no end.
    Ah, touche. I should have worded it a bit differently, my bad.

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    Another pro: PS3 can support up to 1080p, whereas 360 doesn't (only 1080i) but 1080p is a lot better.
    This is false. Both consoles support 1080p.
    Technically, yes 360 can view 1080p display but the results from PS3 with 1080p are better than 360 on HDTVs due to some PS3's display features.

    I have owned 360, I adjusted 360 with my 32inch Samsung HDTV to view the best graphics as possible and the graphics were amazing, no doubt about that. I found the games less fun. So I gave 360 back because of reasons, months later I finally have bought PS3. Adjusted PS3 with my HDTV, the graphics were AMAZING! Better 1080p graphics than 360 and so far I love PS3

    Oh yes, another pro - the biggest company (Warner) has claimed that Blu-Ray will make exclusive for the fourthcoming movies because Blu-Ray won over the format war against HD DVD.

    Pro: The PS3 games online is FREE! You don't have to pay.... on 360, you have to pay for it :P

    Con? The new version of PS3 doesn't have BC, but that doesn't seem a problem to me because I already got a PS2


    I heard that Blu-Ray company said that they are making larger amount of discs (more than 100gb). In the future, imagine an overpowered PS3 game on a 100gb blu-ray disc? That will be godly.
    Oh, give me a break. Am I the only one sick of hearing about the 1080i/p thing? Not content simply to argue about which console supports which, you're now arguing in about the quality of the same level of resolution. Who cares?! I'm happy with the Wii's graphics. Certainly, they're not as good as either the 360 or the PS3, but they're nice, and that's not the purpose of a video game system. I don't buy consoles becasue "ooh, this one's capable of processing 3hz faster than that one", or "yay, this one can play all the movies that are going to come out for the next few years until a new format is designed". If I want a movie player, I'll go buy a frelling movie player. I buy a gaming console for the games. You know, those things that the consoles are supposed to be designed for? So what if one system has a slight graphical edge over another? I buy the things to have fun. I don't want to waste a lot of money on a lot of bonus features like slightly enhanced graphics and movie players, I just want a console that can play fun games. That's it.

    I've been trying to explain that to my friends for a month thx for putting it in better text.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Cactuar View Post
    Depending on how he does it, it can.

    E.g I prefer the games on the PS3, and the price is no real trouble for me, but I don't like the Wii, the control scheme just seems too silly and it's games aren't for me.

    Compared to the possible:

    Smurf the Wii, it's a stupid POS with dumb kiddy games and stupid stick controller. PS3 has best graphics = it wins.

    ^^ those people, inserting any console name in either position, annoy me to no end.
    Wow, I don't know why some people are taking my opinion seriously.

    I didn't say smurf the 360, I didn't say 360 was a stupid console and I didn't say PS3 wins because of that reason, I like PS3 better because it's my taste and other reasons, it's simple as that. I did mention good things about 360, I said that it has amazing graphics, but I don't like 360 because it's not my taste. Doh.

    It's my opinion, there's nothing wrong with saying PS3 wins! They are not exactly emphasis.

    If you like 360 and I happen to say PS3 = Win, then you have to learn to control your temper, because it's pointless to agrue with my taste.

    There's a real reason why 360 and PS3 exist. Two of those companies made two consoles for competition, money. So I can say which console I like the best.

    Skyblade]Oh, give me a break. Am I the only one sick of hearing about the 1080i/p thing? Not content simply to argue about which console supports which, you're now arguing in about the quality of the same level of resolution
    There's my implication behind the statement, what I said is that 360 doesn't support 1080p, means that it can view but doesn't recieve the best results.

    Roto13, huh, what are you trying to doubt? Yes I have made that thread ages ago, but after that, I have researched a lot. Bought 360, gave it back. almost bought wii but bought ps3 instead.
    Last edited by Serapy; 01-07-2008 at 05:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    Wow, I don't know why some people are taking my opinion seriously.

    I didn't say smurf the 360, I didn't say 360 was a stupid console and I didn't say PS3 wins because of that reason, I like PS3 better because it's my taste and other reasons, it's simple as that. I did mention good things about 360, I said that it has amazing graphics, but I don't like 360 because it's not my taste. Doh.

    It's my opinion, there's nothing wrong with saying PS3 wins! They are not exactly emphasis.

    If you like 360 and I happen to say PS3 = Win, then you have to learn to control your temper, because it's pointless to agrue with my taste.

    There's a real reason why 360 and PS3 exist. Two of those companies made two consoles for competition, money. So I can say which console I like the best.
    He never said or even implied any names. Just corrected my mistake... and before that we were talking about this Vivi person, not you.

    He meant that anyone who would bash on the Wii and praise the PS3 in a manner that is very immature and furthermore without any justifiable reasons backing their opinion(Either stated openly or in ones mind, doens't matter) would be considered a fanboy. And I would have to agree with that.

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    What's sad sad isn't how someone goes about changing a topic to something that should be un-related, but the fact that it can at all, as it shows that in our minds, the Wii, the Ps3, and the 360 are all linked in our minds. For example, mentioning a con of the 360 when someone else mentions a con of the PS3, in a thread that is solely about the discussion of the PS3. The only link was in our minds, not in what was presented to us.

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    Oh, ok, sorry then

    Trix already hit on it, but I just wanted to reiterate that it doesn't make a lot of sense. Since 1080p is simply a resolution, those comparisons are almost worthless unless you were playing the same two games. So many factors that have nothing to do with the actual capabilities of either system can effect display. Like the game's actual technology. I mean, you could be playing Katamari Damacy on the 360 and Uncharted on the PS3. Of course the latter is going to look better in comparison. Component/VGA/HDMI input. What resolution the games support. From my experience with the Playstation 3, there are absolutely no "display features" that make it display "better" at 1920x1080. The nitty gritty technical details of processor, memory, and all that is another matter, but that is separate from the resolution.
    Sorry, I should have added more detail in my first post in this thread.

    1080p is a resoultion of 1,920 vertical pixels by 1,080 horizontal pixels with progressive scanning.
    1080i is a resoultion of 1,920 vertical pixels by 1,080 horizontal pixels with interlaced scanning.
    Obviously 1080p is better than 1080i because of progressive scanning that will display every pixel of the highest-resolution HD broadcasts. Interlaced scanning only conveys the images. If you want to find out about more details, just google it.

    PS3 was designed to play 1080p, whereas Xbox 360 didn't design to play 1080p, 360 actually was designed to play 1080i.
    When 360 wasn't designed to play 1080p, they just added a patch when PS3 came out. The patch was to make it upscale to 1080p, that's it. Concluding that 360 will display 1080p nevertheless.

    However, PS3 is kind of unsurpassed (not literally) in 1080p mode right now because there's no game that can run natively at 1080p, only 720p or less. Although, there will be PS3 games in the future that will run natively at 1080p. Concluding that those games will look better than 360 because like what I said, PS3 was designed to play only 1080p.

    What's amazing is that PS3 CO4 isn't even 720p, only 660p and the game looks still awesome.
    Last edited by Serapy; 01-07-2008 at 07:35 PM.

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    All that meant nothing to me, seriously. I don't obsess over that stuff and instead play the games.

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    I was forced to obsess over it when I worked for Xbox. o_o The difference is minimal. It's not noticeable and barely worth mentioning. :P

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    lol roto13..

    Well, the graphics on the PS3 have startled me and surprised me. Playing assassin's creed, the detail of the towns and such, the PS3 is worth the buy.

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    So squall, is your opinion based on graphics or other things besides that? I'm curious.

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    I'm focusing on graphics at the last post, not the game. I'm just saying that the PS3 can handle that much detail in such a game. the doors, the gates, the walls, everything and everyone included n the game.

    Although, just one minor set back on the PS3 that seems to happen to me when i stay on it for a while, is that yes, it's quiet, but when it gets heated up, that's when you hear it.

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