After further reading through descriptions I can place blame on myself. Although it does show the eyes on me thread is far more strict I was looking for a complete serious discussion although in posting here I did not expect for it be replied by six responses of spam not even coming close I can understand for a section to be much more relaxed but I really found that to be just insulting. A Pyrrhic Victory is a phrase that describes a battle in which you lost more than you gained an empty or hollow victory I tried to illustrate that point with a personal story and a history lesson on how the phrase came to be now as far as the whole general point to the topic I was trying to create a topic of discussion where members share stories of personal battles in which you won but at the same time won nothing at all.