Possibly the weirdest thing to happen in the history of ever [Soul Calibur IV]

[Mirage]

FORCE LIGHTNING!

[Roto13]

But she IS one of the smallest characters in the series.

Yeah. And she's still not a dwarf. xP

[Lynx]

i was excited when i saw yoda but then he'll only be on the 360 bugs me seeing as i dont really plan on getting a 360.

[Big D]

3. It's either going to be ridiculous or inaccurate playing as them. A lightsaber would easily cut through a sword, more specifically a block or a human. One hit kills? No. It'll probably be the inaccurate choice, with people blocking them with knives at worst, and it'll look stupid.

Most of the existing Soul Calibur weapons could easily kill a human in a single strike. A Zornhau from Siegfried's longsword would cleave a person in two, if it was physically possible for a Zweihaender that wide to be made and used. Astaroth and Rock both use weapons so huge they'd destroy anything alive in their path, if swung as hard as they are in the games.

Lightsabers, too, can cause non-lethal damage and do so repeatedly in the films. They are also capable of striking some metals without cutting instantly. Since Soul Calibur IV will take lightsabers out of their own universe and force them into its own, the rules and physical properties that normally govern lightsabers could easily be affected.

Or, alternatively, one could suspend disbelief just because the concept is cool

Personally, I don't mind having console-specific characters either. It means there's something unique about each version of the game.

[Roto13]

A wizard did it.

[Laddy]

I think people are talking about the realism in this game in which you play as a seven-foot tall man with his heart beating out of his chest...

[JKTrix]

i mean DOA4 had a SPARTAN in it.. nobody commented on that

People did comment, but DOA is hardly as respected/popular as Soul Calibur is. DOA3 and 4 were only on the Xbox, where there were pretty high chances that if you own an Xbox, you at least tolerated Master Chief. So combining a franchise which isn't super respected with an audience of Master Chief empathizers, there was nothing to complain about.

I hope SEGA doesn't do anything silly.

[Polnareff]

Soul Calibur isn't a mish-mash game. It has a set theme. Smash Bros. doesn't.

The Smash Bros. series had a Nintendo theme in the first two games.

And still does. Both Sonic and Snake have appeared on Nintendo consoles; now it's just expanded to third party characters. There's still tangible connections between the two. There's really no explanation for the appearance of Vader and Yoda in SCIV at all.

I'll say what I said on a different forum.

No one bitched or batted an eyelash when Spider-Man was in THPS2, or when Darth Maul was in THPS3, or at Snake and Sonic being in Brawl, or at Link/Spawn/Heihachi (Spawn was understandable for two reasons I won't get into, though). People thought they were cool extras, and to be honest, I did too.

Snake, who is a lot more mature than Sonic, Mario, Kirby, et al., really has no place in a game like Brawl. He just doesn't fit. But nobody gives Nintendo grief for putting him in there since they're Nintendo and they're always right. And he didn't even originate on a Nintendo system (despite popular belief, he originated on the MSX).

Now, Yoda and Vader, on the other hand, fit Soul Calibur perfectly. The series is full of freaks and weirdoes, and most importantly, freaks and weirdoes with swords. Now, if a mature-rated character who doesn't fit the light-hearted atmosphere of SSBB can be welcomed with open arms, there's no reason why two sword-wielding freaks can't be welcome in a game full of, well, sword-wielding freaks.

Why does the logic that "such-and-such character doesn't belong" work one way but is never allowed to work in the other? That's just illogical. And I'm saying all this as someone who doesn't even give a crud about the Soul Calibur series (give me Street Fighter anyday).

[JKTrix]

It's the hardcore SC fans who have the issue here. Of course casual fans (or 'don't give a crud' folks) wouldn't think it's a big deal, and in fact see it as a huge positive. Perhaps part of the issue that the SC fan(boy)s have is that Soul Calibur is very much a Japanese game. Star Wars (despite its influences) is not Japanese.

People did have issues with Link, Spawn and Heihachi in SC2. They got over it though, mostly thanks to Necrid. SC4 needs a Necrid character, then we won't care about Vader/Yoda.

All of the previous examples of 'cameo characters' that Astronite listed have at least some relevance to their games. Activision, publisher of the Tony Hawk series, also makes Spider-Man and Star-Wars games. I don't think Smash Bros needs to be explained.

But anyway, it's the hardcore SC fans that really have the problem (and they'll likely get over it once the game is out and they ignore the characters they don't like). All the casual folks can carry on.

[Mirage]

I'm more than casual, and I don't have a problem with it. If the characters turn out to be a problem, they'll probably get banned from competitions anyway, and if you don't like them, don't use them. Damned fascists :p.

[NeoCracker]

Wait, since when did no one bitch about Snake in SSBB? Did I just imagine it all?

[Roto13]

Evastio is very much real.