Kefka is so evil he even killed the GRASS!

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I think anyone who votes for Vayne has missed the point of Final Fantasy XII entirely.

What he said. :D

Me? I voted Kefka. For most villans, the suffering they caused was a means to an end. With Kefka, it's an end in and of itself.

I know it's trendy to praise XII on how it dealt with morality. "It's so creative! There is no black & white!"

If that was actually the intention of the game, then it failed. There are definately characters who are good and those who are evil. Vayne claims to be working for the good of Archadia and Ivalice, but anyone who plays the game understands it was out of pure ambition. Pride is the most serious of the 7 deadly sins.

I can't agree with that. You can look at what Vayne did as "meaning good", he just decided to take the ends justifies the means approach.

Yeah, really. Did you actually play XII Bolivar? Yeah, some characters are definitely good and some are definitely not, but Vayne certainly isn't one of them. He thinks he's doing the right thing. Even the Occuria knew it wasn't purely out of ambition.

I think you both missed the entire point of my post. It's made obvious that Vayne doesn't care about what's best for Ivalice or even Archades. It is out of pure ambition to be a new Dynast King which surpasses the old. "Too long have my deeds gone unrewarded" - he is acting out of selfish ambition. And Venat reveals at the end that she deceived him to end "the age of Stones", so I'm not sure where you get "even the occuria knew it wasn't purely out of ambition." It obviously was.

Not to mention the fact that if you believe that a character isn't evil because they believe they're doing the right thing, then you would have to take nearly everyone off of the list. So even if you were right in your interpretation of Vayne (I think the game makes it clear otherwise), it would in no way exclude him from the list.

Characters like Kefka and Kuja never made any claims to be doing the right thing for anyone but themselves.

I don't know why you think Vayne can't be doing things for himself AND for the world. Even the way you describe him, he's more like someone who's doing what he believes is right in such a way as to benefit himself and be kind of a jerk at the same time. Face it. He's easily the least evil person on the list, if only because he never wanted to destroy the world.