Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Roto13 View Post
Maybe you should play the game again. This time realizing that everything isn't always broken up between good and bad. Yeah, he's power hungry. Yeah, he's manipulative. He also wants to accomplish something to benefit mankind. He's not even trying to rule or destroy the world. He wants to rule one small part of it. And not even as a cruel dictator. Remember the people of Rabanastre cheering for him? He must be doing something right.

You're so closed minded.
LOL once again you end a response with an insult. Of course much of the cast reflects the grey area - Azelas may be the epitome of it. Every Matsuno game puts the majority of its characters in it, but in every one, there are a few characters who are good and evil.

I find it hilarious that you still insist that Vayne genuinely wanted to benefit mankind. It's bad enough that the people he was trying to rule wanted to stop him, but everyone from his allies (Bhujerba) to his top-ranking commanders (the judge magisters) to even the members of his own family wanted him stopped. As I already said, the only ones who stood by him were Cid and Venat, who both exploited him to achieve their own ends, and Bergen, who was obviously a bloodlusted maniac.

Yet you refuse to confront these facts to continue to insult me, as you do with everyone else I see you disagree with. C'mon now.
I'll bold out all the arguments you made that don't really prove he is evil one way or another.

People disagreeing with him or going against him hardly mean anything.

Also, he is using evil people to accomplish a good end. Just a method of "The Ends Justify the Means". In some games, even the good guys try to use things precieved as evil to stop the greater evil.

And now, I shall referance X (Bum Bum Bum!!!) to showcase Vayne is not evil.

Look at the Albed. They used something considered evil by the rest of the world to try and stop Sin, along with the help of a few of those non-Albed Crusaders.

For going against their beliefs in Yevon, (Which they believed to be good), are they evil? No, but they used something the convieved as evil in order to stop Sin.